TR - I am with chicksta. Sub 2:55 and comfy cannot possibly be in the same sentence. I know you are a vastly more experienced runner than some of us mere novices but still sub 3 !! and comfy. Impressive stuff really. Clearly being focussed only on the running means that I would ash no time to even contemplate swimming and cycling. I guess we all find our balance somehow.
I suppose the marathon does not respect what you have done in the past only the amount of effort you put in before you run it. If you have not done the right training, no matter how much you want a particular time, you will not get it.
chicksta and Stewart - It was brutal out there today. Have never run in such miserable conditions before. It was not so much the rain but the gale force wind. Running uphill into a headwind is no fun. And being blown sideways across the path is no joke.
My youngest asked me if it was raining when I came back in as a puddle built up around me from all the dripping water. Sweet !!
So having checked my plan before going out, I realised that it called for 10 miles at MP and not 8 miles as I had thought. So I decided that I would give it a go.
My long run route incorporates Hampstead Heath (hills) and Regents Park (flatter). Beforehand I was thinking of trying and extra loop on the Heath but the conditions quickly changed my mind for me as it was a real energy sapping run.
16 miles in driving rain is just miserable. It would have been so easy to call it a day after about 9 miles as I pass near my house when transitioning from the Heath to Regents Park but I forced myself to keep going.
Other than runners and dog walkers there was nobody else out. And not surprising really. Being buffeted by the howling wind and driving rain is unpleasant at the best of times.
So this has to go down as one of my toughest training runs ever.
I completed the 16 miles in 2:06:22 which is equivalent to 7:54m/m overall.
The 10 miles at MP took me 1:16:06 which is about 7:37m/m pace.
I knew I was running hard but mainly attributed it to the conditions. Clearly the pace had something to do with it too. This was not a consistent pace for the 10 miles as I suffered on the hills but everything was mainly in the 7:30 to 7:50 zone with one or two either side of that.
Could I sustain that kind of pace for 26 miles even in normal conditions. I doubt it.
This week I have managed 49 miles dropping one 6 mile easy run from my plan. Not a bad week after the HM.
Next 4 weeks are heavy weeks with 60+ miles in the plan each week. It is always hard when in the thick of things to be sure whether the training is having an impact. I think it is as I would never have run the type of run I did today before. The last mile or so of the MP section was hard and the quads were hurting but that is to be expected so soon after the HM. But it was never in doubt that I would do the 10 miles.
It was brutal. Running uphill at MP with the wind howling into your face and driving you backwards is no fun. And of course then there is the rain. I do not mind running when it is raining but constantly for 16 miles is no fun at all.
The only people out were runners and dog walkers.
So I thought it was 16 miles with 8 miles at MP.
Checked the plan before I set off and discovered it was 10 miles at MP.
The wind over the hills on Hampstead Heath made this the hardest run I have ever done.
Completed it in 2:06:22 which is equivalent to 7:54m/m overall.
The 10 miles at MP took me 1:16:06 which is about 7:37m/m pace.
I knew I was running hard but mainly attributed it to the conditions. At times I was nearly doubled over trying to keep going forward.
Could I sustain that kind of pace for 16 miles even in normal conditions. I doubt it.
This week I have managed 49 miles dropping one 6 mile easy run. Not a bad week after the HM.
Stewart - well done on your last 20 miler. Must be great having it behind you. After tomorrow I have 4 more weeks of long runs before my taper. Going to be tough banging out the high miles whilst everyone else is winding down.
8 easy miles for me first thing today.
The weather looks shocking for tomorrow morning so looks like I will be getting quite wet.
sense - how has the move gone. Did you do as you said you would and supervise ?
Carter - you do not have to pay the blindest bit of attention to my advice. After all you know yourself the best. You have done some amazing training an have the potential to go sub 3:30 by a good bit if it all comes together on the day. Your run tomorrow will help you work out how much faster you can go. And as you say once you have that sorted in your head you will lock onto it an execute it. AS you think this might be your last marathon I can see that it would be nice to go out on a massive high. But please make sure you nail the sub 3:30.
Will - good run considering you probably still had last weekend in the legs. Enjoy the stag.
Ali - great to hear that this week has gone well and that you are finishing feeling a lot more positive about things.
PS - I feel in great form and my 11 mile MLR this week was tough but again gives credence to what you say re possible time. But as you say Richmond will be an energy sapping race. It is hilly and mid May could mean a hot day which would make it even worse. But I will be giving it a go regardless and anything sub 3:40 and close to 3:30 will be a result.
Must be tough juggling everything about. How are you settling in and when do you move to a bigger place ?
Ricky - seems like the running form is coming back well. Would not worry about it feeling hard at Nell's MP. It should do. Not many of us can run at his pace for long.
Nell - another good solid run from you. The one thing I can say about the Hansons plan is that I do look forward to those rest days. As the plan does not really do cut back weeks it is relentless week after week. For the next few month I will be doing 60 miles per week and that will be interesting.
Completed my 11 mile MLR which had 6 x 1mile at faster than MP with 400m recoveries at its core.
The splits for the 6 miles were :
7:34 ; 7:40 ; 7:40 ; 7:39 ; 7:37 ; 7:36
This was a tough run coming so close to the HM and the last interval was hard. Had to dig deep to keep at it and on it.
But really pleased that I could manage this and nail it. It is always tough the week after a hard race to pick oneself up and get back on the training so it is great to be back into it.