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Phil P 
Posted: 05/09/12 11:00:55 55

Hi McFlooze. yes, I think the endocrine clinic tested my thyroid function, but for a while I was convinced that was the problem too - as I hurt all around my neck and collarbones and I lost a lot of weight. I believe I've had just about every check possible. I reckon I just overdid it all, looking back on it, what I used to manage to cram into a day baffles many people. It's possible chronic fatigue is genetic, as are often auto immune issues. I never would have believed in 'fatigue' until I suffered it, my cousin felt the same, but fell ill to it too.    

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Posted: 04/09/12 16:44:50 50

Hi Peter, your experience is very interesting, but awful that the hospital consultants are not interested. I'm seeing a nutritionist too, but am not aware that I'm being treated for adrenal fatigue (that I know of), though my acupuncturist tried to sort out my adrenals some months ago.  I check resting HR too (normally when I wake),  it's quite low when I'm feeling well, normally mid 40s, which is I believe is low for a 42 year old, but there again it's always been low. When I first got ill my HR was a constant 90! If you want to message me feel free, we may have some common ground and share some useful info.

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Phil P 
Posted: 04/09/12 12:56:08 08

Sorry to hear you have fatigue Peter, I've been suffering too, albeit only since Jan, and, as you say it's a pain in the a**e. Most interestingly, it seems that you thought you had recovered, and then went downhill again, well there's a warning ! After seeing countless Doctors and specialists to rule out all else, I was advised to start light training again to gently boost my immune system. Terrified to exercise again after making very slow progress, I found some advice on this site from Rowex, it's about keeping your heart rate low and increasing duration slowly - http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/health--injury/post-viral-fatigue/82684.html

Would be interested to hear from anybody that is also using Rowex's advice or similar styled training plan, it's the best I've come across and I have made progress. 

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Phil P 
Posted: 06/07/12 15:28:03 03

Elstead, your story and problems have similarities to mine. We're identical weight and height, similar fitness, albeit I'm 42. I don't think you should worry too much about the BP, but monitor it. 

I had an incident on the evening I ran the G South Run (oct 11) where I woke up at 11:30pm with a fast heart rate, sweating, numb fingers and toes, felt like I was having an out of body experience, lasted about 15 mins. Had some blood tests, BP checked, nurse said nothing was wrong. All OK until Jan this year, started feeling very ill, this passed in days but then felt very tired, got chest pains and pains in my left arm. Went back to GP had blood tests, BP was up to 140/80 /Pulse 53 in the surgery, but all often much higher at home. Dr said I was I had post viral fatigue and costocondritus (inflammation of the ribcage). I've seen a lot of different Doctors, specialists, a nutritionist and had a Bupa ECG up to 144 BPM (85% of  heart rate) cardiac report was OK, so, it's all been put down to ME. It's been 6 months now and I started training again 4 weeks ago, just slowish runs, nothing under 7min miles. BP is around 130/78 now, I can't say I feel great, despite eating huge amounts of veg, virtually no alcohol and being gluten free, pains in left arm have been put down to a blocked lymphatic system. The thing I'm most concerned about is my pulse after exercise, it's late 40s to early 50s in the mornings, goes up into 70s & 80s when I stand up and move about, but takes hours to return to normal after a 30-60 min run. If is finish a run at 165bpm it will drop to 11x in a minute, and back into the 80BPMs within 10 mins, but I can't get much below 80 until the next morning. I assume this is because of the 5 month lay off - welcome comments from anyone here! 

Anyway, point being Elstead is that many of us have busy lives, high pressure jobs, children and have sporting goals (age related for me), and occasionally the body gets worn out and run down and we need to listen to what our bodies are saying. Could it be that when you injured yourself you dropped your calories to compensate for the lack of training? If so, this can do more harm than good. Hope you're all sorted now and this was just a glitch.

 

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Phil P 
Posted: 03/01/12 09:44:05 05
I got some Extremities Wind Stopper gloves for Christmas, I've worn them, but not in cold conditions yet. Will report back when its properly cold!
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