Ah, ok, my mistake. Sorry. So it's just things like upgrading the zip that an individual can do on any given base item?
Yes, there are options for each person on base items such as better zips, different length zips, longer/shorter arms/legs/body, personalisation (name on kit) etc. These additional prices are not affected by quantity of orders.
The fact that if you're willing to pay more for a higher quality item counts towards the same order total as someone buying the same item on more of a budget would be a significant plus point.
Sorry, I have probably confused you on that point.
To bring the price down quantities of the same item have to be ordered and includes male/female options. So, for example, if 17 men and 3 women order bronze cycling jerseys then the price would be at the 20 item level.
However, if a further 15 people order silver cycling jerseys then that is not a 35 cycling jersey total, they are counted as separate items.
In principle then, it works best to keep choice to a minimum and for a kit manager to work out a range of items, some high end and some low end, but not go mad with options otherwise quantities on individual items get adversely affected.
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8. As I mentioned in a previous post, if you decide to go for the Team Shop option (which is not the only option) then the kit manager in consultation with Cuore sets the price in advance based on projected quantities. If you do a simple bulk order as with LG then, of course, the prices remain predictable and stable based on the number of pre orders.
9. Absolutely right, I do have a vested interest but at the same time I am trying to help. I was approached by a couple of Pirates at the Tri Show who felt the current kit was below par for their needs and that is how this process begun. It would be far easier for me to step back and let you debate these questions internally without getting involved and just wait for a potential order to arrive or not. However, with any threads of this nature there are misunderstandings and before long those become misinformation. An example of this is your website comment. The current Cuore website is shocking and they recognise this. The new website, which I have seen, is very close to launch and is a complete new build and bears no resemblance at all to the current one.
I had a good chuckle at the 'poor track record' comment. Busted, no arguments there. All I can do is relay my experience with Cuore was outstanding and then let you decide if you believe me or if it is me trying desperately to generate a bit of commission. I did wonder if our experience was a lucky one but having visited their HQ they are absolutely committed to improving the service levels of this sector that are traditionally under delivered. The company has been established for several years, owns its own factory, manufactures for several other recognised brands under white label agreements, supplies kit to two pro tour cycling teams and has a very large footprint in the US, Australia and continental Europe. However, you are correct, they are a new brand to the UK.
10. Obviously, I can't answer that, but from several replies here it would seem that at least the quality/functionality of the current kit is not as good as some would like.
Just one other point to answer Fat Buddha's pedancy, whilst the brand is Cuore of Switzerland, orders are fulfilled through their main office in Germany so any transactions are within the EU.
My inclination is to step back now from discussions otherwise I feel my vested interest will always cloud what I say with suspicion. However, I am also happy to help answer any questions you may have so will check back in from time to time.
The first post reads of kit Nirvana, the more ive read the thread the less clear I am. The claims of LG having a long drawn out process and the days of minimum orders going seem to have unravelled already.
Hi Carl - your points are good and i'll do my best to address them.
1. Hard for me to answer as I do not know the LG prices. Also, Cuore cycling kit is available in four different levels of quality, so pricing comparisons will be complicated. As I mentioned in an earlier post, at the moment the tri kit tends to be only available at the higher quality (more expensive) levels but I am pushing for them to add a 'bronze' line and it sounds as if this will be in place very soon. In the meantime, I can provide a spreadsheet of Cuore current pricing to anyone that needs it and I agree absolutely that it would be sensible to compare prices of both companies.
To give you an idea though, Cuore produce a Finishers S/S cycling jersey for £32.50 up to a Gold S/S cycling jersey for £83, based on 10 orders - and several price levels in between.
2. 6 weeks is the maximum delivery time and Cuore absolutely make it their mission to deliver early and never late. In addition, they are very responsive at the front end of the process and once the order window shuts the six weeks begins ticking - I believe, but I could be wrong, that with LG there is still a fair amount of work from the end of the ordering phase until the order is signed off and in production. I may be misunderstanding this. Either way, my experience with other suppliers is that 6 weeks very often becomes 8-12 weeks, and it is a recurring theme in conversations with potential customers but if your experience with LG is different then happy days all round.
3. Your point is a good one. There are no minimum orders but in practice if budget is a limiter then you need to order in quantity before the price becomes realistic.
4. The quantities for pricing purposes are based on the actual base item and includes men/women. So if 20 men and 15 women order tri shorts then the whole order is produced at the 35 piece price. If individuals then want to specify longer legs or a different zip, that is an added extra to their particular order. For instance to upgrade to an auto lock zip on a bronze bike jersey it would cost the individual an extra 60p.
5. As mentioned already - the current tri kit range is a more performance cut but I am pushing for them to offer a 'bronze' range that will be a more relaxed cut. They did used to offer that but felt the tri market to be more of a performance market so moved that way. With the cycling kit you have every eventuality covered from pro spray on fit at the Gold end, to relaxed fit at the Finishers end.
6. 'works best with a limited window' was a comment in relation to the online Team Shop facility that Cuore offer, with items being dispatched to individuals. To my knowledge LG do not offer this functionality. If the order is a bulk order with delivery to one address then that is not an issue, just collate the order, send the information and 6 weeks later the kit arrives.
7. Absolutely, I can arrange delivery of samples to whoever is in charge of the ordering process, Cuore would not accept an order of this scale without the sizing having been checked in advance.
8. As I mentioned in a previous post, if you decide to go for the Team Shop option (which is not the only option) then the kit manager in consultation with Cuore sets the price in advance based on projected quantities. If you do a simple bulk order as with LG then, of course, the prices remain predictab