I don't think we should be put off by the cut-off. About a dozen of us did Germany 2010 with a 15 hour cut-off, even with a non wetsuit swim and extension to bike course all (but I think one) finished.
The cut off will focus the mind, eliminate complacency and is still a long long time to swim/bike/run tge distance. Theres no reason with 11 months to prepare that anyone should fear 15 hours. Slower finishers can look at it as a gateway to faster times perhaps.
I agree that we need to avoid making the decision process to conveluted, that's sort of what's happenened this year.
What's worked well previously (for 11 years) is a more autocratic decision by those with a vested interest / visible participation. That's why I suggested the decision was confirmed by those at Mallorca.
I'm not sure we should be making decisions based the majority, who would the 100+ voters be, will they still be around in 12, 18 months.
It's pretty clwar who the core participants are, they should make the decision as has always been the case. It doesn't have to be the most popular but it needs to suit those that turn out at every year.
Why not decide 2018 at an early 2017 season event or social. The right decision is about the critical mass of support, not 20, 30, 40 uncommitted votes.
I' agree to an extent but How many of those voting at the champs had done Lanza, I don't think it was that many, also Lanza seemed to be the most popular/most supported option on this thread.
I'm not saying that to change the decision. Hamburg means Hamburg
I'm not sure that numbers is the problem, it's engagement, Newbies are pointed to RW forum as they've always been, it's up to them whether they participate or stand on the sidelines. That said the forum isn't what it was with participation spread accross FB & Twitter also (I rarely look on FB and never joined Twitter)
I think another factor affecting the champs is the sheer number of event options now, also the constant draw of Outlaw. Lanza, Outlaw, Mallorca .
Big isn't always best, you can have a better time at a race attended by a dozen pirates than one with 100? It's also nice that there is a representation at many more races e.g this year ive seen a total of maybe 40-50 pirates racing at 226, Outlaw, Weymouth and Wales.
One things for sure, things will change over time, but 11 years on PSOF is still going strong. It's good to see people who were newbies 2,3,4,5 years ago getting stuck in and shaping the future