On other side the pocket is top loaded and may fit a bigger phone, I use this for food or my GPS which is fatter but shorter than a mobile phone.
There is also very small elasticated pockets on front below the bottle pockets which are too small to be really useful on this pack (much bigger on the sense ultra set), tend to stuff these with food packets till I get to a bin.
I use 3 packs currently - the sense ultra set for weekend long runs and short ultra's, adv skin 12set for anything longer (longest so far a winter 120m and a multi-day 190m) and an OMM last drop 10 for commuting runs. Could probably use the 12set for the commutes, but trying to preserve its life and I can put up with the not quite as good OMM 10 for these runs which are usually less than 10m.
SUMMARY - In my opinion if you need something for long ultra's with kit requirements then the 12set is great and if you need something for just a few bits and a couple of softflasks/bottles for weekend runs and short events with less kit requirement I'd go for the sense ultra set over the 5set as it does pack a fair bit of stuff in!
Apologies for long post, needed a distraction from work
I'm not going to give you a budget suggestion as I tend to shop around for the best price on more expensive stuff as I buy kit to last me a few years. So I can give you my biased view on Salomon packs as I have a few from the original s-lab adv skin 5set, through to the s-lab sense ultra set. Original 5l set was one of the game changers in terms of how it felt on the run. Before this I had more traditional style rucksacks, but light packs like OMM adventurelight 20, ultra 12 and last drop 10 (which were all good). I've still got my original 5l set and is mostly usable, just some zips rusted in place I could probably sort with wd40. Still the best ride of any salmon pack I've owned, probably as a bit heavier so kept its shape at the cost of some flexibility compared to newer packs.
But I got the sense ultra set and its just more practical and arguably carries as much or more kit whilst being super light. I'd recommend this if your looking at shorter ultra's and not huge kit requirements as room for two softflask or bottles, good size front and side pockets (better than my adv skin 12set as each is large) and plenty of back storage too. Meant to have 3l storage according to blurb when I bought, but due to flexibility of the material probably holds lots more and doesn't have a restrictive entrance to main back compartment like my old 5 did. I've used this for up to 30 milers and probably could go further in summer conditions. On a recent run I've had:
small map, full waterproofs, headtorch and a warm top in the back pockets;
two softflasks at front as well as GPS, phone, gloves and hat;
money and food in the zipped side pockets.
Still could have got more in their.
I have had a 2013 (I think) and 2015 adv skin 12set (current so far as I can tell). The 2013 was in some ways better as a really big single back storage which could open like a case, so if you took it off you could quickly get at contents without unpacking the whole thing. Also big side pockets! I eventually busted the zips on mine by continual over-filling. But I've done silly things like multiday runs with no support or kit transport between sleeps so was ramming the thing with loads of kit you wouldn't for most ultra's.
2015 one has one back compartment with vertical zip one side and a kangaroo pouch below as well as the side and front pockets. As mentioned I preferred the main back storage on older pack as zip opening to newer pack is a bit restrictive for the size of the storage, sometimes you have to work larger things - like clothing bundled up - a bit to get in/out. But this restriction is made up for by the kangaroo pouch which is great and holds loads of kit as made of same 'bungee'-like material as the sense ultra set.
After some getting used to this design of back storage it is hard to fault as the kangaroo compartment offers more accessibility on the move than older pack compartment (you can get at things without taking pack off usually), and there is still the security of a zip close compartment (though I've never lost anything from the kangaroo pocket). I definitely take this pack off less when on the run than any other pack I've had - which says it all really.
Aside from the back storage:
the ride is still good (though obviously will be slightly more bounce with 12l of stuff packed than from a smaller pack).
Side zip pockets aren't big on it but are good for the stuff you need to keep secure and may not want to have to remove pack to get at (e.g. money).
Large front pockets good for soft flasks, but most bottles also fit.
The zip pocket above one of large pockets is perfect for my phone (though I've got a xperia z3 compact rather than a miniature tv as some have).
Cracking running GD and MsE, good controlled running to get some nice results there, enjoy the celebreation
Similar to OO, Although feeling good definitely some more recovery time needed before back at 100% no more evidence of pains I got marathon day, maybe was the shoes? Didn't run till Thursday as precaution. Just some walking each day. 10m hilly trails today and was hard work by end. Will probably be steady away if do Ripon next weekend.
Thanks all, sorry I missed you OO and Poacher on course. Good running both of you. Likewise had a good experience of the event and nice for visiting marathoners to get a good experience. Think ill be ok, backed off when things started hurting and probably been relatively active at park with family this afternoon so hears hoping not too much stiffness. Will take some rest days and get ready for some easy paced trail runs to come. It's disappointing to underachieve, but there'll be other days.
mountain waffles = 2 waffles stacked with 3 scoops of ice cream (from a choice of flavours), two sauces and 3 toppings. most other days would considered glutinous ????
Another one for memory banks for the future. Good job your doing trying all these and reporting Ben ???? experience teaches me undulating and less than 100 is my strength, but these are the sort of events that float my boat (anyone else find that?)