I know what you mean about Lacey Green and the hills. I live by M40 J4 and drive down the hill I live at the top of and park in maybe West Wycombe and then run uphill through Lacey Green to Princess Risborough etc so I end up with a long downhill section.
(I don't think Phil was getting het up about it so this isn't aimed at him at all.)
The thing for me is that this is new. I have historically finished in the top 20 and started fast (probably too fast) so started on the front line and whatever happened behind me was irrelevant. Now I am taking a step back and my start and end positions are reasonably well aligned. If a few fast ladies want to be a bit more forward then that is OK, and my place does not change as the races are scored independently, but when it becomes more than a few it does seem to be asking for trouble when the inevitable overtake happens.
General question about start-line etiquette and maybe looking at Lit as much as anyone else.
Yesterday was typical XC start, maybe 20 across the front. I started a few rows back as I expected to finish behind the first 60 or so and I finished 61st behind 58 men and 2 women. One of those was way out of sight and the other finished 10 seconds ahead of me but we were changing places regularly as she was faster uphill land I was faster on the flat and downhill.
The thing is I was behind at least 10 ladies at the start. Pretty much the same at Hatfield last year, 62nd overall for me and only 4 ladies ahead at the end but masses at the start.
Am I placing myself too far back at the start or are they placing themselves too far forward? My gut feelign is the latter, as an example at Hatfield they have placings at the start and finish so Laura Brine was 19th across the start line but finished 80th and I was 71st and 62nd. SG 36/15 and bus 39/30 for the record.
Results are in for the cross country. Our team won so that was the main goal though I did not count (I was 9th finisher, 8th male behind our super fast woman who finished 26th overall and next lady was 57th). I was third V50 and only 8 seconds behind 2nd and 4 seconds ahead of 4th.