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More escalators probably,

Why do you run?

Is it to lose weight, maintain weight, for general health, keeping generally fit... ?

Then don't buy these shoes - they make everything easier - you'll have to run more to get the same effect.

If you're training to race...

You'll just have to run your efforts faster to get the same training effect.

If they do what it says on the tin, the only thing the shoes would be good for would be racing - and a VERY good thing at that! - especially in a marathon.

I believe the top Adidas athletes at London this year will be wearing a new Adios Boost shoe - might well see a new course or world best time...

But (see the above) doesn't mean it's the best thing for the average Joe - making running easier...

Then I was thinking...

Everyone wonders why 30 years ago we had loads of good distance runners running sub 2:20 marathons etc.

... and today's athletes are doing the same mileages and hard training, yet much fewer numbers are performing as well...

Maybe it's the new modern, wonderfly light and energy returning shoes that make the same training kind of training easier that are a contributary factor?

2wheels-good wrote (see)

Waylon Smithers wrote (see)

Probably about 15 years ago I remember a (then) fancy counter top demonstration thing that showed the "bounce" of a large ball bearing on 3 different materials - metal (representing nothing), a piece of EVA foam and a piece of NOENE insole.

This was supposed to demonstrate the shock absorbing benefits of the Noene insoles.

Basically, on the metal the ball bounced the highest, on the EVA it bounced a bit and on the Noene there was NO bounce at all…

Therefore… ta daaa… prooving the shock (energy?) absorbing benefits of the fancy insole.

 

Apparently these days, bounce is good!

 

Surely you can’t have shock (energy) absorbing and bounce (energy return) – it’s one or the other surely…

 

Depending on which one the marketing guys decide in in vogue in the current market probably!

 

Today Adidas have decided BOUNCE is good.

 

 

Who am I to argue - if the shoe fits, wear it.

It depends on whether it is a damped or undamped spring response, a pure spring response will return almost all the energy on the return stroke.

Thanks for that - so which one is better for runners - or is that imposiible to answer?

They are as 'good' as each other.

The Adrenaline is a bit more stable in the rearfoot but but the diffrence prpbably would make a diffrence to most.

So assuming they are both the right stability for - the 'best' one is the one that has the best 'fit'.

They don't have exactly the same fit and one will match your foot better than the other.

One will feel more 'glove like', contour your foot better, flex in the right places and generally feel less that you have something on your foot - less noticeable and possibly feels lighter (whether or not it actually is).

That's the one to go for.

Probably about 15 years ago I remember a (then) fancy counter top demonstration thing that showed the "bounce" of a large ball bearing on 3 different materials - metal (representing nothing), a piece of EVA foam and a piece of NOENE insole.

This was supposed to demonstrate the shock absorbing benefits of the Noene insoles.

Basically, on the metal the ball bounced the highest, on the EVA it bounced a bit and on the Noene there was NO bounce at all…

Therefore… ta daaa… prooving the shock (energy?) absorbing benefits of the fancy insole.

Apparently these days, bounce is good!

Surely you can’t have shock (energy) absorbing and bounce (energy return) – it’s one or the other surely…

Depending on which one the marketing guys decide in in vogue in the current market probably!

Today Adidas have decided BOUNCE is good.

Who am I to argue - if the shoe fits, wear it.