also do you lot agree with the notion racing trainers make 5/10 secs difference per mile as opposed to standard training shoes?
Yes! I like to think so....
I do all my training in my heavier padded Brooks Ravenna trainers, then on race day when I put my races on (Brooks T5) they feel so damn light it’s untrue. I feel like I have an added advantage - much like if I’m out training in adverse weather conditions then I tell myself that my race competitors wont be so mad training in this.....maybe it is all psycholgical - but who cares?!! if it makes you feel good on race day you’re onto a winner!
Plus because I only use my races for race day they last me for a couple of yrs, hence why I’m still running in T5s not T7s
Did my last training run yesterday, 9miles easy pace in 01:03 avr 06:58 m/i. Next time I run it will be on Saturday up Snowdon - bring it on!
I'm stuck with what workout to do tonight, so looking for suggestions. I theroetically have 4 workouts left before the 10km race in a couple of weeks and so far have the following planned:
Any input on any of the sessions welcome
I know, I know....to late to suggest anything for tonight, but another time perhaps...
I like doing the 10 x 400s like a few others on here, but It seem I take longer time off on my recoveries! At the moment I’m doing my 400s at 1:13 a lap, then I do a very slow recovery lap before going hard again. It seems a few of you only take 60ses off for your rec, then go hard again...I don’t know which is the best or correct way?!? However in the past I have been told with the recoveries I can take up to 2 or 3 times the time off that I do my reps time in, so for me if I need it I can take up to 3mins 42ses off for my recovery, and if I needed more time off, then I need to slow the reps down! Like I say I don’t know which is the correct way....
Another speed session I like doing is a pyramid: 4x200m (with 200m jog recoveries) + 2x400m (with 400m jog recoveries) + 1x800m (with 800m recoveries) + 2x400m (with 400m jog) + 4x200m (with 200m jog) great session but the 800m is a killer
This evening I did my last quality run before Saturdays race. 8.5mile, in the middle I did 3miles tempo effort. Target was supposed to be 5:48 pace, but I was a naughty chap tonight and went too fast. Splits were:- 5:45, 5:48. And 5:41. Normally I do my tempo stuff on the track 5x1mile (with 1min recovery), or 3x2miles (with 2min recovery) but nice change tonight doing it on country roads and paths!
Happy as - can't see a sub hour 10M being a problem with your 10k time once a bit of endurance is built up, and you must be getting there with that a races like Broughton under your belt and Snowdon coming up!
Doubles are definitely a good way of increasing mileage and stamina. I've found you adapt quickly to them, and even if knackered after the morning run, the body soon recovers for the evening. I never bother with breakfast before a morning run, unless its a long one - just need to make sure you eat properly the day before and hydrate beforehand.
Quick look at the Broughton results shows a pretty strong Leicestershire contingent oddly - what's the connection?? Not as bizarre as the first two being from down south though (Surrey and Middlesex), especially as they were in front of some big fell running names including Robbie Simpson who won Snowdon last year I think and Andi Jones, one of the UK's best marathoners as well as a top fell runners, not to mention the likes of Jim davies, Ben Bardsley , Tom Addison and Scoffer amongst others...
hey bus boy...I think the fact our travelling and accommodation expenses were all paid for was the reason why we got a team out at Broughton heights! Surprised me too when I saw the results and the 1st and 2nd guy were from down South, I had my money on A Jones or Robbie Simpson to come away with the honours. I’m looking forward to seeing those two compete at Snowdon this year…I’m sure AndI will want his title back after not competing last year….I predict a good fight !
Regards doing double days - I like your tip about eating well the night before, then just having a drink before the am run, My thoughts are to only do four or five miles for the first run, and then maybe 8 or 9 in the evening, all at a nice easy pace on those days. Then probably stick to single day runs on quality days when I want to be fresh to train hard - does this sound sensible?
Another fantastic book I can highly recommend reading is ‘Running with the Buffaloes - by Chris Lear, which follows a season of training of a Men’s university Cross country team. I give it a 10/10
Believe me StevieG, looking at some of your race times for the longer stuff such as 10m and HM makes me well jealous - much respect to you, to be able to go sub 6min mile pace for HM. My aim is to do that in my next 10mile race end of Sept early Oct time! HM can wait !
Happy as - yeah, read FITC a couple of times. Like many soft southerners this is probably what got me into my first fell race! I now have quite a collection of fell-tunning books. Running High by Hugh Symonds is a particulalry good one.
Unfortunately I've not made it to the fells for over a year now. Came back from Fairfield last year suffering badly with both knees (combination of increasing the downhills too quickly and racing too much on top of injuries!). Hoping to get something in later this year (maybe Black Mountains) and/or get up to the lakes in Spring next year. Finding the time both for the races and to recce the routes is the biggest problem with 2 young kids and a 250M journey, so I've not done a huge variety. Have done Fairfield 5 times, Borrowdale 4 times, Loughrigg twice, Anniversary Waltz and Oissy's Oiks. Would love to do Snowdon though being half welsh!
Must admit I don’t get to do as many fell races as I’d like either, what with all the travelling involved and ever increasing petrol costs etc...in fact I’ve only done one fell race this year - Broughton Heights, up in Scotland, My first race in a county vest...there’s not many fell runners to choose from in Leicester lol , so not a big deal, but still a huge privilege for me! Thanks for the tip with the book - Running High, I’ll put that on my list, I often think about characters from running books when I’m going through a hard patch in training or a race.
Need to start upping the mileage after Saturdays race - So thinking about copying some of you guys and introducing some double runs, maybe twice a week, that means running some mornings then - and probably on a empty stomach, I guess the body will soon adjust?!!
Today I did a 5 miler at easy (E) pace, Average 07:01 m/i, No issues with the recent pains I’ve been getting in the lower abs/groin area, so that’s nice