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Oh boo CM . I feel your pain. Not suffering quite as bad as you and not sick (touch wood!) but haven't been able to run since end of Feb so 3 months now, apparently I am hell to live with . Physio said I'll likely be a far faster runner with these new form techniques they're trying to teach me, I don't really care, just want to be able to run for more than 1 minute!

Caro- yes, that hill looked scaryily steep to me! Really good of that man to catch her, sometimes we forget that most people out there are actually incredibly kind! How's your back doing? I have found a pilates class but the beginner course doesn't start until Sept, I think I'll wait for it though as don't want to jump into a class of proficient pilaters..! Yay to Eric walking. Rosie doesn't walk she runs! Sure Maggie was never like this... If I release her from the buggy she literally sprints away from me, thinks it hilarious!

Tt- have only said well done on FB I think, so well done again on the marathon! Sounds like you ran a very controlled race and yes can see you being an ultra queen, joining CC and lotte.

CC- your race sounded brill too, 3rd lady!! I was randomly just looking up the Dorset doddle (which my dad organises) and the fastest runner did it in 5h 02 in 2011, it's about 31 miles of huge hills so thats fast!! Someday I'd like to run/walk it as my first ultra, I like the fact that you can't get lost as its all coastal path!

TurboT- hope you're ok without mr TT. Did O have his xray? hope he's ok.

Hoggle- your hubby is very brave retraining, and so are you letting him! But as you say, if he was that miserable doing his old job...

Very worried by the talk of b*tchy girls. Mags is such a telltale, is that just how 3yr olds are or will she have no friends at school if she keeps it up!

Hi to RB! Good to have you back! Remember you saying a while back that you weren't running on top form when marathon training? Was everything ok in the end?

JT- hope you feel better soon and that it isn't morning sickness...

Must get back to work, only today and tomorrow before I'm finished for our holidays!!!

That's does look impressive but I probably eat near that when marathon training without thinking about it! I consume mountains of carbs anyway, I have toast/porridge for breakfast, plus sarnies for lunch and pasta/noodles for dinner most days. I remember my last marathon that all I did was eat one extra bagel and I reckoned I was near the 600g carb mark  

have to admit I am more conscious of what I'm eating right now due to the lack of running - another reason I love running, I never think too much about my diet - and feel I'm getting bit obsessive..... physio needs to fix me soon!! Although we're going on holiday in just over a week, two weeks all inclusive!! I always relax when it's just me and hubby (away from all the mummy's talking about their fat stomachs etc) and eat (and drink!) lots without worrying. Still was hoping I would be doing early morning runs along the beach, just because I love running somewhere different. The hotel gym is not appealing, maybe I need to do early morning dips in the sea?!

CC - your love of camping is great and so useful! Takes pressure off all the crazy races you do! I would be so stressed if stayed at home the night before with the family preventing preparation etc or with the expense of a hotel for one night. We do have a lovely family tent in our attic my mum donated to us which we still haven't used!!

caro - do you have to pay for next years marathon entry? If it wasn't costing I'd enter anyway as you still have a whole 10 months to get sorted! I know I've not been out of action as long as you but im assuming ill be running again before the autum and ready for a spring marathon (thinking brighton if don't get into London) and a couple of halfs. Hopefully not being too optomistic...

camlo- that's an awesome 5k time to just pop out like that! Looking forward to hearing about the man v horse.

karen - I was laughing at your post of no more kids (is three girls really hard, maybe I should reconsider my pangs for the third as obviously can't make sure it's a boy!), especially when you said you might be pregnant as my first thought was - wow she still regularly bumps uglies with her hubby enough to thinks she's pregnant!  

forgothen last page, and ipad annoying me with constant autocorrect and having to cut and paste because it cuts me off so you're all saved from my waffle! rosie finally awake so time to drag mags away from peppa anyway. I've been lone parenting this week and am again in awe of all you who do it regularly, cannot wait to see hubby on Friday, I might actually be nice to him!

Interesting how many would've had more kids given the chance! We'd all be a lotte! (and run as fast maybe...?!).Second pregnancy was def harder than first but I was only a year older so think the chasing a toddler had more to do with it than how old I was. I am very keen for a third (would absolutely love a boy - although I realise I am more likely to have another girl!). But I am definitely not ready yet, since getting this injury I just desperately want to get my knee/body fixed then have a full year of good running, have another crack at a marathon PB without breaking myself. Then maybe I'll be back to thinking about babies plus need to convince hubby... he is not keen atm but the girls are only 1 and 3yrs so we need at least Mags to be at school first! I am slightly scared that another pregnancy would b*gger me for good though! And TT - age is relative! You've had your boys quite close together, possibly if you've had Max ten yrs ago you may feel too old to do it again?!

Sandals - Mags now has a pair of clarks doodles off ebay for a fiver, they look very comfortable and well made. (She is an F width so we have plenty to choose from).

Still spending £'s on my physio, decided to attempt to run last week and knee went within a mile so got thoroughly despondent again. Then at physio on Sat we spent all session on the treadmill videoing me running/walking (all on my iphone so I can see my awful form!). Very interesting watching me swing my hips, knock knees, swing my left arm far more than the right etc. She tried out different adjustments and to start with we are going with making sure I run with at least a fist width between my feet and land lighter on the right side. Have been instructed to run 1min walk 1min 3x, so a whole 3min of running! Its not long enough to feel the knee pain so no idea if its working and I'm running with my legs so far apart that hubby says its hilarious! Saw the Dr this morning about MRI and he obviously does not like physios.., has perscribed me an anti inflam and told me to come back in 3weeks if I still can't run then he might consider referring me!! 

Enough moaning, Maggie is getting to watch a lot of peppa while I write this . She has preschool this afternoon (on her freebie hrs) and Rosie at the childminder so I will be officially working at home. I am actually going to the gym then the shops and will catch up on work once they're asleep tonight (whilst watching the apprentice probably ). Expect I'll be back when I'm 'working' later.

Congratulations JT!!! Lots of 3's on here, is it the magic number then?!

And well done to EF too!

Post more later once I've done some work

CC- you just made me sit up at my desk and engage my lower abdominals Can you mention core every time you come on please?! Still struggling to find a pilates class suitable, physio said I must do a beginner class where they are very hands on, she said I need it to be boringly slow! She spent all our last session with the ultrasound on me trying to get me to engage just my lower abs/pelvic floor etc. I was useless at it so have lots of exercises which I'm already slacking on. Hence the need for pilates class! Apparently I clench everything too much?! Also looks like I may need to go to specialist about my PF if it doesn't improve. Rather depressingly and despite no running, I have general pains around my right knee and leg when I just walk too much or even sit crosslegged too long.

Enough moaning! Was also going to say as TangyT said that 8miles is never easy! Great running though CC. I continuously waver between being jealous or inspired to get better when I read all the great running on here.

I'm also in the raging hormones group with CC and Tt. No period for 2 months now and feels like I'm permanently pmting. Surely I have a few more years before I'm perimeonpausal. Might even want another baby sometime!

Trying to remember last page... Karen so sorry about your puss cat. Made me well up remembering when I had to take our old girl to the vets, still seems to recent but was week before Rosie was born so over a year ago. It is some comfort when they go quickly though.

TT- hope all house move stuff goes as smoothly as it can with 2 little ones. And Brookie, fingers crossed for a quick move! I hardly know anyone who hasn't moved/done major renovations when pregnant or with new baby. Is it nesting instinct or just that we all need a kick up the arse of an expanding family to get things done?!

Ef- well done on exams and cannot believe only 10weeks left!

Caro- ouch to head wound! I am also of the inclination not to go to a&e or even the drs unless absolutely necessary. when kids are sick, hubby often says 'if theyre still poorly tomorrow we should go to the dr' meaning me! So we rarely go. Did go about Rosie's nasty ezcema patches but got given the usual diprobase bollox, at least on perscription though

Chynah, keep in touch and do have a rant! I was considering the bournemouth marathon, does look flat! but as injury drags on seems unlikely. Still got the date in my diary though as thought could do the half if able.

Kinsey - think you mentioned hatchlands and NT? My nt membership is def worth it as I go to claremont a lot, only 5mins drive away, girls love it there and would otherwise be £10 a time. We go to places at the weekend too though, polesden etc.

Right, should be working.... Had a great birthday weekend! Birthday (friday) was usual pants of me shouting at the kids, my mum was down and 'helped', definitely was worse behaviour all round with her there (from me included). But had scrummy meal out in the evening at my fave local restaurant which has the best puddings (I even got to eat spotted dick as it was made with veggie suet!). Then half day off with hubby on Sat while relatives babysat. Amazing lunch at Nopi in Soho, then off to westfield to potter, then cinema for StarTrek, where I drank most of a bottle of red wine and a family sized bag of m&ms (yes, the whole bag ). Even had some more of my birthday cake in bed when we got home at midnight

sorry, waffling, must work!!