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If there's water near the end of my run I'll take a detour through that to get the worst off, otherwise just leave 'em outside caked in muck and hope it rains. Once (if) dry I may bang them together a few times.

David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

peter groome wrote (see)

A big, ironic thank you to the principal contributors to this forum thread.  You have portrayed runners to the wider community as angry, hysterical, ranting, obnoxious arseholes.

That Guardian journalist to whom you were so effortlessly offensive, wrote a piece that was a model of objective balance, honesty and sensitivity.  I'm not surprised that she was made to feel unwelcome here.  You should be ashamed.  I certainly will not be coming to this troll-domain for intelligent discussion in the future.

Woah peter ..... chill a second there bud ..... I think you'll find that once youve actually looked at the numbers very few (oh for the sake of argument lets call them all kittenkat) were offensive to her, and a majority, lets call them (oh me for example), were like 'well lets wait and see what the piece is like.

I've read through the whole thread, and while KittenKat is undoubtedly the arsehole di tutti arseholes for reacting to Amelia Hill the way she did, let's not forget you started the whole thing off by having a thinly veiled pop at a dead girl. Which could be seen as a bit obnoxious. Oh no hang on, you're actually a martyr to free speech for daring to 'tell it how it is' - it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference.

I know of quite a few fellrunners who rate those kahtoola thingys so you should be fine with them. I've always found that pukka fell shoes are just fine in snow, though, and less faff. I've done loads of running in the Lakes in winter and don't change where I run at all, save that if there's snow on the tops then I make a point of getting above the snowline for as long as possible! - My pretty basic Inov8 Mudrocs are just the job. I used Adidas Kanadias in a v. snowy winter race and they were surprisingly good too.

John - despite your protestations to the contrary, you definitely are being a killjoy. I hope you never get to see what fell-runners get up to in the winter, you'd have a health-and-safety induced fit.

I find that well below -10 can be perfectly comfortable so long as it's reasonably still. Puff on the inhaler before I get going, start off slow, maybe a buff covering my face for the first five/ten minutes to warm the air I'm breathing a little, and I'm fine. However, if it's really cold and windy too then I find that just smashes the energy out of me.