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By the way I did the 16 week plan, only ran 3 days a week plus 1 other day swimming normally. So short, medium and long run, each week. Had run lots of half marathons before but never anything so organised. Few weeks before nailed a 22m training run on my target race pace so from then I knew I'd done it. If anything the marathon itself was just executing the plan. I almost cried on that 22m run however I was so happy to be able to run at the end and thought "I've done it!"

Did 3:56 at Brighton 2012. 99% sure had I not had a Garmin I would have come in over 4 hrs. Ran the race in my Kinvaras. Happy days lol

This is advanced, fewer days would be the target for a lower time:

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/racing/rws-basic-marathon-schedules-advanced/110.html

Cheers mate, will see how it feels hopefully later this week.  Seeing how it goes may switch between the Viratta and some Hattori LC

Ordered some of these in a 10.5, can't wait!

http://www.ratrace.com/294841/products/saucony-mens-grid-virrata.aspx

I used a 1.5 litre camelpack. I heard that wasn't enough for marathon distance so I expected to pick up some drinks on the way. As it was, since I was scoffing jelly babies on the way, the mix I had in the hydration pack seemed too sweet so I tended to drink more water from drinks stations and I still have a half full pack by the finish.

I used the same pack on a 10k, wouldn't race without it. Much prefer it to drinks stations just have to get the right mix for conditions and distance.

Suprised there is no mention of these bad boys on the site yet. They're basically zero drop Kinvara 3s - Kinvaras have always been 4mm drop. I've used Kinvara 2s for the past year and before that Mirage 1s; before that regular shoes and sore knees

Looking to get a pair of Vittaras next week, rather than Hattori LC, since the Kinvara formula worked, so I won't shake the boat.

(I might try the Hattori though for an Olympic Tri in a couple of months...)

Any thoughts or experience? I think they look great. I'm pretty sure having run in 4mm for 18 months the break in should be pretty easy, just some moderate calf/achilles pain I'm hoping for a week or two.

Cheers!