Minni - Does she enjoy it? Interviews - No. Running - You bet she does - put her in a race and watch out. I certainly wouldn't like to be head to head with her in the closing stages of any race. Come to think of it I have ..... and come a cropper each time
In terms of the other questions - mid week running is pretty much always 10k or 10 miles averaging about 8:30/mile.
The only exception to this in the 6 weeks between the Yorkshire Marathon and Lancaster Marathon was a single 18 miler at 8:30/mile 3 weeks out. The rest is on Po10.
Overall weekly mileage tends to be around 60. In fact the last 10 weeks have been 54, 57, 58, 34, 43, 60, 50, 62, 60, 52 but there have also been 20 races/parkruns in there as well.
Diet is whatever the appetite fancies, it knows best.
YD - Next April is a long way off but there is more likely to be lots of short, sharp racing in the build up rather than other marathons, but you never know!
A Dewsbury 34:xx sounds perfectly reasonable (wind permitting)
DT - It is not a comment on your specific question but just as a general observation there is a lot of emphasis on saving the legs for this or that, when in fact to get the best long term results, and hence enjoyment, it can be better to just get stuck into to a variety of running at varying intensity levels and distances without overthinking when the benefits will appear or whether the next performance may be compromised.
The truth is that nobody can tell you what training will have what effect for you individually but if you get in plenty of variety and stay uninjured you will be 99% of the way there
It was good to bump into Mr V and Kaysdee last weekend at the Norman Woodcock 5 miler at Newcastle racecourse.
Despite having a massive Guinness banner to run past on each of the the three laps as a reminder of what awaited us after finishing I still couldn't keep up with the speedy Mr V.
And I agree, Mr V, 17:20 is about where you're currently at looking at that performance last week.
Dr Dan - 'Feeling good for a fat git'? It's only 350ish days before your 30 year return to B2C ....... time enough to get as lean and mean as that 18 year old back then though.
Alehouse - I do indeed heartily approve of your numerically pleasing WAVA score And absolutely delighted to see what is another big shot in the arm on the recovery trail, although I suppose it is simply training now rather than managing the injury?
Wardi - Will see you at Red Lion on April whatever date it's on next year!
YD - You must be feeling good with the string of training that you're putting together at the moment. There's tons of time before Edinburgh so all you need to concentrate on at the moment is not getting injured, you seem to peak for races pretty quicly once you up the ante.
Talking of marathon build ups, I now have 10 days before the Pisa Marathon, which was booked as a backup plan should last Sunday's Lancaster Marathon have been too windy to put in a respectable effort (wind speeds were predicted at up to 25mph just 7 days out so 4-5 mph on the day was brilliant).
As it turned out Lancaster will go down as one of my most memorable races in 2:54:17 and 1st place . Because the race was combined with a half marathon I had no idea that I was in the lead until the HMers turned for home at 10 miles and I was suddenly presented with a lead bike to follow and a mere 16 miles in front of me for victory. With at least three sub 3 marathon runners following behind it took a little while to recalibrate the situation I can tell you!
It all worked out rather well though
And the OH managed a 3:02, which means a collection of 2:57, 3:01 and 3:02 in a mere 7 weeks. I don't know how she does it........
Strangely, I am now actually really looking forward to Pisa with no expectations whatsoever.
DrDan - Think of it as a hamster stuffing up it's cheeks to get the resources ready for the next escapade
And, yes, B2C (as it seems to have now been renamed) probably does fall outside the scope of world record rules in the same way as GNR does. Probably worth bearing in mind if any of us are closing in on world record times
YD - I did notice the quality of the field at AD. When Marders is down in 22nd with a 30:22 that is some race.
And a tasty battle between you and SM by the looks of it.
Unfortunately, I won't be at Lightwater Valley as I am determined to stick to my retirement from XC.
As to the comment about B2C being my best ever race (possibly), it was based on a comparison against the other candidates:
Edinburgh 10k 33:30, age 21, WAVA 80.46%, age adjusted time 33:22
Brass Monkey HM 1:14:04, age 27, WAVA 79.86%, age adjusted time 1:14:04
GNR HM 1:18:41, age 46, WAVA 82.20%, age adjusted time 1:11:58
Brampton Carlisle 10 Miles 55:37, age 18, WAVA 82.57% age adjusted time 53:45
Brampton Carlisle 10 Miles 59:14, age 47, WAVA 83.03%, age adjusted time 53:27
So it was certainly a contender for that title
SFF - Congratulations on the PB. Regardless of how soft the previous one is a PB is always reason for celebration And, yes, I agree about the turn at the finish when in flat out mode.
Duck - You'll probably feel as strong as an ox when you get back to the track and chances are that you will be able to hold a peak for longer once you get into the track racing season. It shouldn't do you any harm anyway.
Oh, and despite it only being 5 weeks since the Budapest Marathon, carb depletion is already underway for the next one ..... might as well see what these legs have in them while they're feeling perky
There isn't half some communal momentum about on this thread at the moment
Velloo - Very well done on the marathon, what a huge improvement and it sounds like it was you in control rather than the distance.
MrV - You have high standards these days if 36:48 classes as a disappointment. Looking forward to seeing what happens when everything clicks.
Alehouse - Good luck at Hyde Park at the end of the month. And couldn't agree more with your advice (as you know). Run plenty miles and run a few of 'em a bit quicker
If anyone is interested the very same theme will be covered on this week's MarathonTalk. Reluctantly the OH agreed to do a joint interview with the friend that ran a 2:35 recently to show different approaches to running a string of marathon PBs. She won't tell me what she said but considering that she runs every run with me there won't be much science involved
YD - Superb run from you yesterday and the lack of any over celebration on your part just goes to show how fit you are feeling at the moment. Just remember that only 1 in 5 races will click as you want ...... And that's if you're lucky.
Duck - Whatever happened to you? I'm feeling a bit of a disconnect here. Aren't you the chap who gave up on the longer stuff to go and run some incredible speeds on the track? If so, what givs you the right to then go and knock out 6 min/mile half marathons? However you've done it, it is brilliant to see
I had a decent weekend myself, it was just one of those really enjoyable running weekends where the results don't really matter. But as it happens, the results were ok too
Saturday was Sheffield Castle parkrun, which could well be the toughest of the 110+ courses that I've been to, so was very happy with 1st in 18:10.
Then yesterday it was back to the BramptontoCarlisle10, the scene of my PB when myself and DrDan did battle there alongside Steve Cram a mere 29years ago.
The course is pretty much a straight line on a B road, and isn't what you would call flat, but it tends to work well for me because:
a) There are no sharp bends anywhere so you can keep the momentum going.
b) No matter what pace you're running there is always a reasonable amount of company without it being crowded.
The end result was my fastest 10 miler for 20 years with 59:13 and because you climb a bit towards the end some of the earlier splits look a bit swift, 3 miles 17:20, 5 miles 29:04, 10k 36:21. Absolutely loved it
This morning the OH asked what age grading it was to which the response 'erm, don't know' didn't suffice. So I am advised that it was 83.03% and equates to an age graded time of 53:25. Pinch of salt and all that but I suppose, technically at least, it could be my best ever run
Duck - Great couple of days on Friday/Saturday. You must be brimming with confidence now. That was quite a chunk to take off your Aberdeen time in one go.
YD - really good to see you back in the shape of Dewsbury again, if not slightly ahead. When conditions click you may well be making inroads into completely new territory time wise
Simon - I think the 20 milers are done more out of a 'following the crowd' reasoning than anything else. If it is for confidence then it usually backfires because a 20 mile race usually sows more doubts about an upcoming marathon than bestowing confidence.
Alehouse - Race? Now that sounds like very good news
A quick totting up shows:
Running Days: 31
parkruns: 4 (3 1sts in 17:49, 17:49 and 18:14)
10 Miles 1:01:02 (1st)
Very happy with that for a month
Had a reasonable weekend just gone, although pedestrian compared to the speedsters on the thread - 18:00 at Kingsbury parkrun on Saturday and a lively half marathon at Lode yesterday, 2nd in 1:22:04, which had some of the strangest splits being an out and back course in very strong winds. I clocked 39:00 and 43:04 for the out and back respectively and the winner 37:57 and 43:01. It was character building if nothing else!