Mr V - I'm sure your lower legs will thank you for keeping to solid underfoot conditions.
Alehouse - I don't blame you for keeping away from xc - if anything is going to take a battering it will be the achilles, which is the last thing you want to overstrain after your patient comeback.
Duck - I know what you mean about trying to run hard after work. Still pretty swift leg turnover stuff for you though.
As for the 'marathon training' flying in the face of logic you're kind of right. If someone suggested that to prepare for a marathon you should:
a) Cut out the long runs over 15 miles.
b) Don't do any training faster than MP + 2 mins.
c) Don't count weekly mileage.
d) Race regularly, but nothing too long.
e) Race a marathon 2 weeks out from your target marathon.
f) Race at least twice, but preferably 3 times, on the weekend before your target marathon.
.... you'd probably think they were off their trolley, right?
However, by coincidence, we have a friend over in Belfast who pretty much has the same approach. He coaches a fair few of the top NI athletes, including two sub 2:40 female athletes, one of whom improved dramatically when he stripped most of the speedwork out of her training. She has run 2:42 at London and 2:39 in Berlin this year as a result.
And he wasn't too bad himself at his peak with a pb of 2:18!
Mr V - XC is a funny old game. The benefits are questionable (compared to others ways of achieving the same anaerobic development) but the risks are very real in terms of knackering up ankles and ligament etc. Unless you get genuine enjoyment out of it I wouldn't bother tbh.
I think Dr Dan has come to a similar conclusion after this weekend
Minni - That 'training' for the OH produced another marathon PB yesterday in Pisa, Italy where she finished 4th in 2:56:54. Not bad for the 4th marathon in 9 weeks.... 3:01, 2:57, 3:02 and 2:56.
I've done one less in the same time but I have been surprised at just how robust the infrastructure feels coming off a series of 2:58:53, 2:54:17 and 2:54:09 yesterday in that same period.
Marathons are actually enjoyable now which is not something that I thought I'd catch myself saying not so long ago
Minni - Does she enjoy it? Interviews - No. Running - You bet she does - put her in a race and watch out. I certainly wouldn't like to be head to head with her in the closing stages of any race. Come to think of it I have ..... and come a cropper each time
In terms of the other questions - mid week running is pretty much always 10k or 10 miles averaging about 8:30/mile.
The only exception to this in the 6 weeks between the Yorkshire Marathon and Lancaster Marathon was a single 18 miler at 8:30/mile 3 weeks out. The rest is on Po10.
Overall weekly mileage tends to be around 60. In fact the last 10 weeks have been 54, 57, 58, 34, 43, 60, 50, 62, 60, 52 but there have also been 20 races/parkruns in there as well.
Diet is whatever the appetite fancies, it knows best.
YD - Next April is a long way off but there is more likely to be lots of short, sharp racing in the build up rather than other marathons, but you never know!
A Dewsbury 34:xx sounds perfectly reasonable (wind permitting)
DT - It is not a comment on your specific question but just as a general observation there is a lot of emphasis on saving the legs for this or that, when in fact to get the best long term results, and hence enjoyment, it can be better to just get stuck into to a variety of running at varying intensity levels and distances without overthinking when the benefits will appear or whether the next performance may be compromised.
The truth is that nobody can tell you what training will have what effect for you individually but if you get in plenty of variety and stay uninjured you will be 99% of the way there
It was good to bump into Mr V and Kaysdee last weekend at the Norman Woodcock 5 miler at Newcastle racecourse.
Despite having a massive Guinness banner to run past on each of the the three laps as a reminder of what awaited us after finishing I still couldn't keep up with the speedy Mr V.
And I agree, Mr V, 17:20 is about where you're currently at looking at that performance last week.
Dr Dan - 'Feeling good for a fat git'? It's only 350ish days before your 30 year return to B2C ....... time enough to get as lean and mean as that 18 year old back then though.
Alehouse - I do indeed heartily approve of your numerically pleasing WAVA score And absolutely delighted to see what is another big shot in the arm on the recovery trail, although I suppose it is simply training now rather than managing the injury?
Wardi - Will see you at Red Lion on April whatever date it's on next year!
YD - You must be feeling good with the string of training that you're putting together at the moment. There's tons of time before Edinburgh so all you need to concentrate on at the moment is not getting injured, you seem to peak for races pretty quicly once you up the ante.
Talking of marathon build ups, I now have 10 days before the Pisa Marathon, which was booked as a backup plan should last Sunday's Lancaster Marathon have been too windy to put in a respectable effort (wind speeds were predicted at up to 25mph just 7 days out so 4-5 mph on the day was brilliant).
As it turned out Lancaster will go down as one of my most memorable races in 2:54:17 and 1st place . Because the race was combined with a half marathon I had no idea that I was in the lead until the HMers turned for home at 10 miles and I was suddenly presented with a lead bike to follow and a mere 16 miles in front of me for victory. With at least three sub 3 marathon runners following behind it took a little while to recalibrate the situation I can tell you!
It all worked out rather well though
And the OH managed a 3:02, which means a collection of 2:57, 3:01 and 3:02 in a mere 7 weeks. I don't know how she does it........
Strangely, I am now actually really looking forward to Pisa with no expectations whatsoever.