Cheers philip, I arrived in time for baddeley race. He was locked in a race the whole way. Someone on his shoulder the whole way. Was a great watch. next time I would go for the faster race to be dragged round. But to get into the faster race you had to put 3.57 or faster down. So I better understand the Watford rules now . But it was also good to go head to head with les and Simon. My next race will be a bmc so I expect to be hanging off the back.