Sense - Best of luck with your training and with the marathon in Paris. I ran Paris in 2013. Enjoyed it even though I went in with a tight hammy which my physio said could tighten up at any time during the race. Got to 16 miles when it went and I had to push hard to get in under 4 hours - 3:58 - which still stands as my PB.
I went through halfway in London last year at 1:45 but collided with another runner - well they collided with me really - at the water station at mile 16 and that was that. I finished but the tilt at a new PB was gone in a flash as it took 6 miles to run off the effects of hitting the ground hard.
Like you I am aiming for sub 3:30 but will settle for something close to this when I run the Richmond marathon in May. it is a tough course and will be hilly. I am running Chicago in October and that is where I want to break 3:30.
I will contribute on here as much as I can and am interested in TR's approach to training for a marathon.
Need to read back and catch up. Will do this first and come back on again when I have done this.
Carter - great few weeks running from you. Plenty of time left yet to Manchester so looks like you are back on track and no niggles all with a new diet. Well done to you.
Ali - fab long run from you today. 15 miles this early into marathon traning is nothing to be sneezed at as they say. And it sounds like a stronger run than the last few so definite improvements. And you sound much more positive about it too so all looking good. Keep at it and you will reap the beenfits in a few weeks.
Nell - that is fast for 10 miles but you are the speedy one on here for sure. What paces does your Hanson plan recommend you do for the intervals - is it MP -10s as you say or something else and are teh intervals of the longer type e,g 1km or 1 mile type rather than the 400m/800m variety ?
Carter - yes technically tomorrow is day one of marathon training and as I still have not put my plan on paper it might have to start with a rest day. I have been toying with following the Hansons plan this year but still slightly unsure about the 6 days a week running. I think I can do 5 but maybe I will have to find a way to fit an extra one in at lunchtime. Running in teh mornings is a non starter with kids needing to get to different schools in different parts of London and running 4 evenings out of 5 during the week might have me in trouble at home. So if I organise my week to run at lunch then I could manage it.
I headed out just after 8am this morning. Again free from adhering to a training plan decided that I would go for a fast 8 miles at a little faster than a notional MP that would get me close to 3:30 something and then have 2 miles slowish to finsih off the week.
It was quite cold being early and the footpaths were a tad icy. Of course it is all relative and conditions were probably balmy compared to those in Scotland.
8:12 ; 7:54 ; 7:54 ; 7:49
7:49 ; 7:53 ; 7:49 ; 7:44
Overall 7:53 min/mile.
This was a hard session but quite uplifting at the same time.
Followed this up with 2 miles at 8:31 m/m.
So 29 miles for me this week after a few weeks of high 30's mileage.
I think this gives me a good base for marathon training.
Now do I follow the Hansons plan or a modified version of the RW / Asics plans. Decisions, decisions ...
Nell - good 4 miles from you and glad that you took it easier than you normally do in those icy conditions. It would be so easy to pull something by slipping in those conditions.
I thought that is what you would say re the intervals. AS you say it is all about what works and doesn't work and is very much an individual thing. I have always wondered how much benefit I get. I enjoy them even though they are tough.
Carter - great 19 miler from you today. It was always going to be tough with it off road and no food beforehand. Did you have the cold bath as Nell suggested ? I have tried them once or twice and they are tough but certainly you do feel great afterwards.
Well I managed to get the 2 girls out for a 1.5 mile run this afternoon. We ran the circuit they did last Tuesday at the club - which is about a mile long) and I made them do an extra 2 short circuits around the perimeter path of the running track.
The 9 year old did well. Good running technique. the 7 year old moaned at me alot and needed loads of encouragement. Plenty of stopping but they did it. Started to set them targets of getting to the 4th bench, 3rd lampost etc and them having a short break before carrying on again. Will be interesting to see if I can keep them at it.
Told the 9 year old that the target is to do a parkrun with me in the summer. She gave me her opinion of running a race in short order but if I can keep her doing this then that is easily achievable.
So 1.6 miles running and at a pace of 11:51 min/mile.
After dropping them back at the house I carried on for another 3.5 miles at 8:51 min/mile pace.
So 5 miles overall at an easy pace.
Longer run tomorrow. As it is an easy week this week it will only be about 10 miles. Need to get it in early as I have another footie match late morning with the eldest. He played this morning too and scored from a cracking free kick into the top corner. Highlight of his season so far considering he is playing left back !!
Some cracking FA Cup matches today as well. Cannot remember when so many top flight teams have been given the run around by lesser opposition. Shows you what a cup match can do.
Washwood - it is normal for the first marathon to think about it a lot. The important thing is to enjoy the running beforehand as otherwise it can turn into a bit of a grind
Good pace for 13 miles. As you say once you start doing 15 / 16 miles and more you will need to slow a little more. I read somewhere that the LSR'a should be run somewhere between 60 and 90 secs slower than MP. Like you I often struggle to run at that pace consistently but that is the goal as TR says. Running a long way at a consistent pace translates into a decent time.
Nell - must have been cold for you to have the tights on and also do an interval session on the dread mill. Agree with your comments about not doing hard running on tired legs. Two back to back hard sessions are a no no as it gives the legs no recovery time and risks injury.
Interested in your thoughts on the no intervals philosophy that TR is suggesting. Now I think he has got some really fast marathon times under his belt compared to my tortoise type finish times so there must be something g in it. Bit you are the scientific one amongst us when it comes to understanding this running malarkey.
Carter - phenomenal weight loss in the time so very well done. How long so you diet hard for and do you have to stay eating like this forever ?
What did you decide to do today ?
Ali - great mileage from you this week so far. You have certainly been getting the miles in these last few weeks.