The honest fact is, I am a 11:45 IMer. That should have been 11 hours, had it not been for a couple of flats on the bike and some gut issues on run, which I have to figure out as a separate matter to training.
The reality is I'm pretty gluttonous (especially where wet carbs are involved) and to get anywhere near 10 hours would involve some wholesale changes in my training and diet. Something I'm trying to convince myself to do, with a quick Marathon towards the end of the year possibly being a goal and in turn benchmark for IM time next year.
I have seen numerous threads about how stand alone marathon times might be extrapolated to IM runs and appreciate there are a huge number of factors involved.
GB and TE both turned out, in my mind, pretty impressive times this year and although in weight and frame terms you're both comparative racing snakes, I was curious to see where we might differ and whether the hindrances in my running might be where the wheels come off (it likely will be).
I'm quite happy to give and take shtick on t'internet, after all, that and porn is what it was created for (regardless of what Google are trying to have us believe).
So... I intend not to hijack this thread again until function thresholds (about 12-14 pints) and training peaks (the speed bump at the end of my road in Suffolk) are in my common vernacular.
I'm presuming your second post wasn't directed at me Flyaway, as there wasn't even a hint of that in my post. So returning to my "relatively pointless remark", I am trying to establish a barometer from GB and TE in their pursuit of sub 10. For your thought bank, I don't find information gathering pointless.
The straight facts are that I am a shite runner (this is largely poor running form and a little too much excess weight) and, importantly, my training has always been pretty unstructured, focussed on distance and endurance rather than performance enhancement.
Where I am heading with this is to establish whether I should be busting a nut to get myself in the region of a 3:30 standalone Marathon (which I'd need to deliver on the day), 'm likely around a 3:45 at the moment, or indeed if the fitness gains and extra time that could be shaved off my bike are a more time efficient investment in my training.
It bothers me that I've had to justify my enquiry to you Flyaway but I'm grateful to TE & GB for feedback.
Chatted to a German chap after IMA this year who finished 19th in the 35-39 AG with a time of... 9 hours 17!
OK so it's a quick course but the thought made me a little sick.
My swimming at full distance, with little training, is consistently between 1:07 - 1:15. My quickest bike is 5:45 (off back of 4-5 hours of unstructured training per week & including two flats). My weakness (& significantly so) is my running and the consistent issue of stabbing gut pains (which I've not yet sussed).
I am confident I can turn out at IMA next year and deliver circa 1hr swim and with some good training (& no flats) 5:15-5:20 bike but I am curious to know what you guys feel you need to be delivering (time wise) in a stand alone Marathon before you can feel realistically confident of going sub 10 hrs on a 140.6?