Hello folks - not managed to post on here much of late, although I have been lurking. The infamous 'Team GB' thread has been occupying my reading time (I've made it to Xmas day...please no spoilers as to the Reading Half outcome!)
Sorry to hear about all the injuries and niggles - really hope that they heal quickly, and that it's not too frustrating and hideous whilst they do.
Bedders - Int. questions re: final LSR. I'm down to run my last long one 4 week out from London, 24miles with final 3-5 at MP. So if you recover quickly from the LSRs, I'm sure 3 weeks out would be fine?
New experience for me tomorrow - Rutland Duathlon. Viewing it as a LSR alternative and not worrying too much about pace or racing. Just have to remember to put my helmet on/off in the right order!
Good luck to those racing this weekend - esp. any Inter-Counties XC(I double-booked myself with the duathlon, and it cost more to enter).
Well run to those at Bramley (Jools, 12m pre-race is hardly tapering, so I'd be pleased with 66min) and for those doing long runs.
It is reassuring to hear that others get a little tired and jaded with the marathon training. I've found it tough the last couple of weeks, the weather certainly not helping. HR - that run on the downs sounds amazing. Wish we had that kind of terrain around us.
Energetic morning for me this morning: 6 miles XC at Bosworth battlefield. No monarchs or horses to be seen, but there was a lot of mud and bog-like conditions. Probably the toughest XC I've run, and pace reflected that. Due to the sunshine,I decided to run the 12 miles home, at a surprisingly sprightly (but comfortable) 7.20min/mile pace. I think my focus on road-running is starting to show.
Some more good long runs going on, inc. Jimbob, Jools, . You can tell it's a marathon training thread...
CW - reps and then a wander - sounds good. Didn't realise you were in Cambridge. Must be nice to run around (I only ever go for conferences).
HR - I echo others' comments. I tend to do a hard reps session on the Tuesday before a race, and then generally easy runs of 4-7 miles on the Wed, Thurs and Sat; the last one with a mile or so at race pace and strides. I find I have to do a bit of work in the preceding 48 hours, otherwise I just get lethargic.
Thanks for comments on the mileage. It's interesting how much variation there is, given we're all training for the same event. But genetics and time do a lot. And I'd rather run less miles, at this stage, and get round a tad slower, than do too many and get injured and not get round at all.
I survived the 10k league race this morning. Well, I ran a 20sec pb on a lumpy and windy course, but it didn't feel like a pb run. Every mile was hard work, including the downhills. Still, thems the ones that count the most, I think. Did mean I was rather surprised (and sceptical!) at the result.
Some amazing training going on here this week, as per usual.
CC2 - Good treadmill run mid week, and HMP run too. What was the audio book?
Bedders - Glad to learn I'm not the only one who snacks on cereal like its going out of fashion. I hope you don't add milk to those bran flakes? Good long run too, and I don't think neg-splits are a bad thing in training.
DrDave - OW! Who knew park run was so dangerous? Hope you're not feeling too sore and no long-term damange.
Good LSRs to HR, Wardi and others. And hard luck to those who were intending to race - although there are plenty of races to choose from in the coming months.
I've had a mixed bag of a week really. Easiest week, mileage wise, for a while (will be about 40miles total), but really struggled at club reps on Tuesday (although pace was ok) and yesterday's MP run (8 miles) was horrendous. I had to stop every couple of miles to stretch, and it really felt like my energy levels were 'dipping'. Improved for the final two miles, but can't say I enjoyed it - although the 6.40avg was a tad quicker than MP.
Brick session in gym this morning, which felt better, although the hamstrings are giving me gip (long-recurring problem). Hopefully lots of stretching and foam-rollering will mean I can cobble together some kind of race pace for the 10k league race tomorrow morning.
Does anyone else find that, once they start the properly long runs (20m +), it plays havoc with faster paces (e.g. 10k or so)? It feels like my legs just get confused - something to do with those fast and slow-twitch fibre things?
Interesting discussion re: mileage, too. I ran 3.06 at Stratford last year off around 40 miles pw, max, and struggled spectacularly in the final 10k. Will be averaging about 50 mpw for VLM this time, so it will be interesting to see how much a difference it makes, although the quality of the sessions I'm running this time round is also considerably higher. But when I read about people avg. 60-80 mpw, I wonder whether I should be running more/further. Is gender a factor here? How long does it take to work up to that kind of mileage, without things starting to break/fall off?
Have just read back through the last week. Blimey, there is a lot of running going on! Which, I suppose, is a good thing.
Well done to HR on the long run in the winds this morning. Same also to Joolska for the 12M - sounds like we're pretty similar in terms of PB pace? I'm envious of your access to hills. Bedders good luck with the sub-3 attempt; your mara pb is the same as mine, although your half is a tad quicker, and I'm doing nowhere near as many miles. Interesting thoughts on the use of intervals vs. same pace. I've not been doing this kind of stuff for long enough, but I do enjoy speed intervals and I think they're making a difference. I'm sure other will have thoughts on this.
Well done to DrDave on the first first! Storming 10k pb, and it sounds like you've found your talent (when not medic-ing, at least). Maybe aim for a HM some 6 weeks out from VLM and taper for it, so you can get a good sense of current form, and work out what to aim for at VLM based on that? Nothing wrong with being a little conservative in your estimate, either, given the great unknown that is 26.2.
Another 21M LSR for me this morning - this weekend all outside, thank goodness, although a few miles required a bit of swimming through muddy fields. Very breezy in parts (my own fault for heading out to the aforementioned fields). My coach suggested I run a little later than normal, to have some experience of the kind of semi-tiredness that comes from getting up so early and standing around at VLM. So I got up at 8am and cleaned the bathrooms and did the household chores and went out about midday. Definitely felt I was working a little harder than normal, but not in an unpleasant way. 7.25min/mile avg, with miles 13-18 nearer 7min/miles. Had to stop at 19m to stretch, but other than that, pretty good. And only got rained on twice.
Got a 30mile road cycle planned for tomorrow with the husband, so will be interesting to see how the legs cope with that!