Leslie, nice one with your girl! I'm trying to get my little rascals to go out for short stretches with Dad.
Birch, you're an Adonis. No grey here (or my Dad) but fortunately for him he's got your retention…I'm hanging in there but losing the battle.
Lithotripsy (aka stone smashing procedure) done. Won't know if all worked but until later but so far no pain and will be optimistic. Cool enough, my doc and his resident are both marathoners. My wife marveled that they spent 2 minutes talking stones and 20 minutes taking about, yes, you guessed it, running!
Gul, that's getting your money's worth! I don't usually go over 250-300 miles.
Leslie, you are really getting the reps in. Hope you left some in the tank for the weekend. Do you have an A race coming up that you would taper for?
GD, nice 8 x 800 session (I'm set for that one next week).
So took Sunday to Tuesday off. Urologist said I could run so did a 12 miler Wed (body felt all out of whack after the days off but was good to get the miles in). This morning the stone moved and I was in a verrrrrry bad way for about 4 hrs. Ended up in the ER and then stone shifted again. No pain since. Unbelievable how nasty this gets when the kidney is blocked (just fetal on the floor and nothing takes the pain away...simply groan and vomit, then repeat over and over). Hope the procedure tomorrow does the trick because this is no way to live! Plus it's hard on my marathon training
Gul, you have shown some very nice fitness gains on the HR plan you are following. The test you do seems similar to what HADD proposed, but I have never actually done that. You are certainly ready to add in some of the subLT stuff now (perhaps over-ready!). You'll see (further) significant improvement with this component when you get there. And I think you'll learn the feel of your realistic marathon pace very well and have a metric to know where you are in your next race. If you pick a flat, cool weather race, I don't think there will be any wall for you to hit if you do this HR stuff correct (big PR could be in the cards).
On my end, I had 267 miles in July (and 1567 on the year). Am liking the Hanson plan. Have been feeling very strong and love the new twist in workouts.
On a more serious note, was literally passing blood in urine this past week. W/out all the details, found out I have a 7 mm kidney stone. Luckily, no pain at all (just the blood after a few runs). Lithotrypsy to break it up planned for Friday and then hopefully out it comes. Have had one before (but that was fetal on the floor can't be arsed to function type of pain) so seems to be common for me. Need to drink more water and cut out all the coke zero I drink! Doc says I can still run despite the bleeding. This was a cutback week for me anyway so have taken 2 days off and am debating whether to do more or not. Life is full of surprises.
Ramjet, thanks for sharing your experiences. I think at this point I may just do 3 wks on and simply make the 4th week easy (with strides as you say, which is what I usually do). I won't try to get those missed quality sessions back but instead just pick up the following week as listed on the schedule. This never seemed to hurt in my previous builds so will put some faith that this will serve me well. The other thing I find somewhat odd is that the quality sessions are so close together (Tue and Thurs). Normally I'd throw 2 easy days between those sessions but so far I seem to be coping well. Overall, I'm liking the new elements. Was time for a change I suppose.
Good luck as you get ready for your next marathon. And smoking 5K result!
Ramjet, I'm dropping in to see if you can give some comments on the Hanson plan? I normally live over on the sub3:15 thread but saw you have been using Hanson recently with some good success. I have normally done more of a HADD approach and shifted over to the Hanson plan this cycle (training for an Oct Marathon). I found a copy of the 60-80 mile plan online and have been following. But I noticed that there is not a single cutback week. I'm 43 and pretty much know how things will end if I don't step back every (at least) 3rd week. How have you dealt with this previously (did you take cutbacks? And if so, how often?).
My previous marathon builds have featured weeks of about 65-75 miles. Quality sessions were a 13 mile run Mon/Thurs with 10 of the miles at subLT (aka MP-10 sec). Then a LR of 18-22 and all the rest of the days easy running. Strides 1 or 2 times per week. I'm hoping that dropping one subLT session and adding the VO2 max intervals (aka the Hanson method) will get me over a plateau I've been on recently (especially considering that I have done zero V02 max stuff since returning to running about 6 years ago). Anyway, thanks for any advice you can give about this plan and what you've learned along the way.
For the rest of you P&Ders, I attempted P&D once, but it resulted in injury (but that was several years ago so probably was too much too soon!). But am always impressed by the performances this group churns out. And have read the book as it has some great info.