Hi guys, I've been quiet for a few years! I just wanted to say thanks to all of your comments on this post. I know it's a bit controversial with the amount of running I've been doing back then. In the end I did managed to average 115km per week for 12 weeks at a very slow pace until..FATIGUE struck! yes, you've mentioned before that I should be careful, but I was a very motivated new runner back then (typical rookie mistake). That fatigue lasted months!! Yes MONTHS! My mileage reduced from 130km pw down to 40 within weeks, before I ended up picking an ankle injury.
Though I did do my 1st 10k race in hilly Malta approx. 2 months after the fatigue/injury in a truly disappointing time of 46:30. I blamed that on overtraining and doing a lot of sightseeing the day before which actually affected my form. Anyway, after the disappointing run, I nearly gave up running altogether before I've decided to jump straight to marathon. I gave myself a year to train which I've failed to do so properly. It was normal for me to have weeks without running which further affect my motivation. In the end, I did run the Berlin Marathon having been undertrained and lack of mileage. The silliest thing was I ran the marathon with a slight calf injury that blew out of proportion before km20. I ended up walking and limping to the finish line in 4:28:00. And so that was another extremely disappointing race.
Looking back at my training habits for the past two years, I thought it was quite a remarkable achievement albeit a silly one, that l've been able to average over 100km per week after picking up running about 6 months earlier. To continue averaging 100km with a busy work/life schedule is extremely hard. Today, I'm averaging a measly but sensible 20-40km per week, whilst still maintaining my fitness and remarkably my 58kg weight as well, exactly as it was 2 years ago!
Hi All, I thought I'd like to give an update. 1st of all thanks again for dropping by this thread and contributing your thoughts. Have been really busy at work lately and my schedule has been largely work+run+sleep. I've just finished my 5th week of 100km week of only jogging/base. i've run 100, 115, 135, 115, 110km weeks. As you can see I'm nowhere near the targeted 160km. I have to say it's been really tiring and I'm only jogging/running slowly! I have to say I did push myself on many occassion but it seems like my body is still adapting.
Shortly after completing 135km I've had an ache (probably sprained) on my left ankle. I was practically hobbling and couldn't even jog. It was that bad so I resulted on walking 4km back home in the middle of the night! Only then I thought of taking a week's off running and do things more sensibly. FYI, I've peaked to 135km within only 5 weeks - 9, 45, 100, 115, 135 - so I was doomed for injury. However I only gave myself a day's recovery and I'm surprised that the sprained ankle was gone by then. My body also felt a lot better - it was only then I've realised how important recovery is! Everything was going fine again until this week when I started to incorporate a number of 1-2mins walk within some of my evening runs (10-19K runs). I'm not sure whether I'm facing a burnout on the huge mileage? But I thought I hit the wall on 1 occasion (and its not even the marathon). Having said that, jogging these huge mileage unbelievably doesnt affect my working life. I always feel good and sharp everyday. It's just in the middle of the evening runs when my mind says no to running. It could also be that I wasn't eating well on those 2-3 days. Anyway I'm taking a slightly more cautious approach to get to 160km. I might not get there at all but I'll definitely listen better to my body.
StevieG - I've just read the link you've posted me and I was really surprised at the ending! I can assure you this is a genuine attempt to share my experience as a new and over-eager runner.
Also-ran - congratulations and welcome back! I'll put more quality workout when I think I'm ready to do speed training (don't know when since I really enjoy putting these base miles at the moment).
RicF - thank you! I'll be happy with a sub 44 this year
bruce - for some reason I think I'm a long way from going under 40 - probably another year or 2! I might as you say hv a good BMI for running but I guess good timing doesn't depend on BMI alone..I need a lot more work on strengthening my body, core, flexibility and total mileage..so have a lot of work to do
As for the good news - I've just registered for July's British10K - my first ever race. Though a long way to go, am very excited about the prospect of racing
As I'll continue doing base mile runs until April, i might not update as much as I'd like to on this thread unless there's something a lot more exciting to report to (like joining a club, a parkrun or a race). I mean who wants to know me jogging the same mileage and probably the same speed for the next 10weeks?
@Grendel3 That was the whole point originally. I didn't want to put any limits and I thought I'd give Lydiard Base a try as long as there were no injuries. I do agree I need more structure and a lot more speedwork. Will look into one of those 10K programmes hanging around the web. Thanks for your advice!
@Stevie G I feel very lucky to get all of the inputs from you guys! Will definitely help a newbie like me
I too felt like doing a 10K to see how much I've improved (or not), but with the amount of base I've been doing, I'll save that for some other time. I don't want to rush anything. From my opinion, speedwork is way more tiring than doing these base runs. But my target this year is to achieve 44mins. I know its not much but it'll mean a lot to me! Thanks again for your thoughts!
@JeremyG Maybe I should start finding a club. It does sound exciting! I'm very excited to hear about your improvements. Cutting 15mins of your 10K time is very inspiring. I do hope you'll dip below 40 soon! How much did you improve for your 10K after a year?
@Stevie G - Thanks for your input. Great to hear from someone of your experience here. I think the outcome from this thread is suggesting me to reduce my mileage and go for quality instead. My ultimate target is 44mins but am not sure whether that's too much of an increase for me
@Grendel3 - thanks for sharing your experience here! I wouldn't want to face any burnout when I'm so new to this (an eager aswell). So I guess I need to scale down and allow for a more gradual increase. I'm not thinking of doing this competitively, but I guess I'm one of those people who has too much of a burning desire to improve myself. I'll definitely slow down and allow for a lot more rest.
@Adam Pants - wow, I wished I had your talent and speed!
Thanks for all the replies, its good to hear from you guys! as @stutyr mentioned I should provide a bit more details about myself. I'm a 30y.o. male, 5'8", 56kg (BMI of around 18.5). I was active in sports as a teenager but never competed in anything at any level. Used to play sports almost everyday back then until I reached 20. Having said that, I've never run (as a sport) apart from the almost daily basketball I've been doing for awhile. Started running about 8months ago because it gives me this tremendous feel good factor. Never realised how tiring/rewarding running is for a newbie. I've totally underestimated runners (sorry guys) and why they love doing what they do. Was hooked since!
Have been reading quite a bit from RW and various articles until 2 months ago I came across Lydiard and thought might give myself a go. Initially I thought of focusing on 5K, but after reading Lydiard decided to change to 10K. But then I thought If I were doing that many base miles I could also use this to run my 1st ever marathon (ultimate target - probably next year).
My PB are 10K - 49mins and 5K - 23.13. Both of these runs are recorded using an app and I'm quite sure I could push slightly more if I knew how to pace myself back then (always started too quick and half dead at the end).
I initially heel strike but changed to forefoot / midfoot strike after about 3months. Most of my mileage are at a jogging pace (anywhere between 5:10-7:00). So technically I do not run 100km, if that makes sense. I'm trying to hold on to 100km and increase my pace slowly depending how I feel. Ideally I'd like to reach 160 even though at a super slow pace and hold on to it before increasing my pace every week. I've read somewhere that it worked for an amateur runner when he 1st tried Lydiard base.
@Stutyr Yes I'm one of those over-eager newbies you'll find a lot on RW I do experience some really faint aches on my right knee and calves, but I've been doing simple strengthening exercise to address this. Having said that, it's the same faint ache I've had everytime (from months ago) I increase my mileage by at least 20km/w. But I've realised after doing some strenghtening, my knees and calves felt a lot better. Though I do realise its very important to listen to my body. If I feel like an injury is coming, I will back off and focus on core exercise instead. As you said, I would not sacrifice a long term injury for short term goals.
I've never thought about joining a club. Wouldn't have thought they would accept a newbie with my timing anyway? I'm also short on commitment. I ran a lot of mileage since I ran daily to work (about 80-85km/w). Sometimes I ran/jog back at 11pm from work, so you see I ran whenever I could. I ran because its a lot quicker than taking a London bus believe me or not!
@JeremyG - I guess I've totally misunderstood Lydiard. I thought it was meant for everyone. He did say the importance is to reach 160 at any pace you feel you're able to do asap, and gradually increasing the pace once you've reached 160. Will reduce mileage in May and do more 10K specific training.
@PhilPub yes I'm looking at Lydiard. Though never saw the way you see things, so you're right, I've must been working more than them! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Having said that, I do ran really slowly - either at aerobic phase or purely jogging at the moment.
Thanks again everyone for your input. I need to rethink my strategy!