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Lit my predicted time was 3:42 and i set off for at 8:35 pace (3:45) and held this for about 10 miles then really struggled to hold it and then times fell off drastically. Thing is i did do a training run which was 16M at 8:35 pace although weather was really mild with this and i have always seemed to stuggle in the hot weather. Just wish i could put my finger on exactly wot went wrong......just think more than likely combination of things above and a severe lack of endurance..

Thanks 15West. Reasuring to hear that carb loading was probably a big factor. To be honest i didnt think how much this would of affected dehydration aswell  im abit thick like that at times lol. I got most of my long runs in although i do think i done these probably too fast and so they affected quality of my other runs and i wasn't training my body to make endurance adaptions the way i seem to understand it they come better with running 15-20 percent slower than MP (still not sure on this and how exactly that works). Glad to hear your advice on running carb depleted as this is something i really feel i can work on. I basically needed to do a small carb load night before, have a big breakfast and relied heavily on gels before any LSR's i did and still hit wall at times. This tells me body was way too accustomed to Carb energy and when it really needed Fuel from fat stores it struggled. Lots to think about but atleast ive got areas to work on. Thanks again

Hi all. Hope everyones well and well done to everyone who completed VLM and on some of the times some of you achieved. I've not been a regular on this board but have followed it and posted a few times. I've got my VLM medal and to be honest still high as a kite and loved the whole experience from run itself, training and in my case the fundraising........But to be honest it was a little bitter sweet because i come in at 4:40 when my HM time predicted about 3:40. I had a few issues with carb loading. basically sitting on toilet for 3 days previous to it because i found out stomach couldnt tolerate all the different types of carbs i was cramming down me. Because of this i panicked and took immodiam night before and on morning and have since read quite a bit that there can be more of hindrance on warm days because of water retention. Which was definately the case. All this aside tho i still feel like i have a challenge left and would still love to get sub 4. I've already signed up for chester in Oct and would love any advice on how best to start preparing for this. I get a little bit confused with some of the P&D stuff and feel like i made alot of mistakes. ie didnt do enough recovery runs or quite reach mileage totals and my training paces were off. The more ive been reading and because of VLM experience with basically hitting the wall after 90 mins the more i think it was down to how my body was utilizing energy stores and that i hadnt trained it to rely more on fat storage. Does this sound like it could of been the major factor? what would u advice that i need to do to improve my endurance keeping in mind that my HM time is so much quicker than what i actually achieved. Thanks all any advice really appreciated p.s good luck to everyone tomorrow