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cheers gaz. I knew it was near the 55 minutes and was hoping the garmin was right with just inside rather than just outside

Isn't face book amazing. I asked the question on a local running discussion board and one checked with Wallasey AC and another checked with the organisers in Aintree and the word is that they will hopefully be posted tomorrow

I have had a good look around everywhere and I can not finfd them either. They do have a facebook page under Aintree Diabetes but that is showing nothing either. Best guess is if they are posted anywhere someone will put a link in there.

I suppose if you have run an event before or have run a different event by the same organiser then you have a good idea what to expect. You may be more tempted to go for it ( or there again less likely.)  So it does make a difference but it is not the main deciding factor. What you get from BTR is good but it does not mean that what you would get from a new organiser would not be.

The problem with a new one would be the level of council involvement. The council has come across as seeing a marathon as something you must suffer rather than something they actually want and there is no saying that a new organiser will come in under strict council terms.

If not a marathon bites the dust which would be a shame.

I see thay are now talking of bringing this back as a May marathon in 2014 and are looking for someone to run it.