Carter, I'd read that about your 5 longest runs being 100 miles, in total, during training, we shall see as I'd be worried about over-doing it. My pace is the key, I think I burn off too much energy (for me) in the first half of the race and if I was able to run it at a slightly easier and more consistent pace I might have a bit more in the tank for the later stages, That said, if I converted a couple of the proposed 17-18 milers into 20 milers I'd be there, so it's something to consider
I don't think refuelling is an issue, took on board plenty of gels and water last time but I could be wrong
Last year I didn't have a break between building up to the Capesthorne HM in Novemeber and then starting Marathon training mid-December. This year I am to have a month or so of "fun" runs between the Arley Hall HM at the end of October and starting the 18 week marathon training mid-December
Robin, Chester Road sounds similar to the last five miles along the prom in the Liverpool Marathon in that it never seemed to end. I'm aiming to try and stick to the P&D plan but have already prepared to drop one of the easy/recovery runs when the inevitable commitments of work and family life intrude on my training.
That sounds like a plan iansi, I dropped the shorter run each week (from P&D) to drop it down to 4 runs and still keep the mileage relatively high which my groin could cope with and have sufficient recovery days. I think I was still in the 40-50 miles range most weeks and did 3 20 mile runs as opposed to just the 1 first time around. As a United fan, the site of Old Trafford looming draws me home on the final stretch whereas it might have the opposite effect for some
Newcomer to this thread and first attempt at Manchester. I did Liverpool in May and missed my goal of 3:30 and finished in 3:39 due to having a complete detonation at mile 20-21.
I followed an Asics plan for Liverpool and am convinced that not enough miles and/or quality sessions did for me, I also suffered with pneumonia in my build up. So to cut a long story short I've decided to also follow a P&D 55 plan with the goal being that sub 3:30. I note a few others are using P&D, what prompted you to do this and what (if any) are your experiences of using the plan.
The profile looks fairly flat for Manchester, is this the case or are there any any little stings in the tail that are worth worrying about?
I did a "get you round" for Manchester 2 years ago and having done my 1st marathon, wanted a bit more in the tank and hopefully to get a better time
for me P&D was too much based on 5 runs a week not giving me enough time for my body to recover, I aim to do a similar but slightly lower mileage but on 4 days per week this time around (which is my normal number of runs per week). The difference this year though, was after my struggle through miles 20-25, I did find enough to run the last mile in goal pace to break 4:15 for the first time. Training mileage certainly built up the stamina, my issue was pacing the race wrongly and going off far too fast which probably stemmed from running some training runs too quickly
Not much difference in my 2 marathon times, 4:16 last year and 4:14 this year
As for the course, it is flat apart from going over the canal and Metrolink lines a few times and the small bridges they entail. The "killers" are having to do Brooklands Road twice (a long, straight road of over 1 mile), the quiet stretch from Sale through to Urmston where Carrington is empty of spectators and the final run down Chester Road, again a long, straight stretch where you can see Old Trafford in the distance but it never gets any nearer
Core,core,core..something that a number of people (not all runners) have drilled into me so there must be something to it. If your core is stronger then you run better and get less injuries. Finding some decent exercises and stretches may be the key (Pilates didn't work for me)
Moving back "on topic" for Manchester, it's certainly getting "pushed" appearing regularly on my Facebook timeline and I believe there are a larger number of places this year, not sure whether they are expecting more entries on the back of its reputation or whether they are pushing the half and half or 4 man relays
I've settled on a personalised version of the P&D 55 plan which will only involve 4 runs per week and slightly lower weekly mileage, starting mid-December to allow for any Christmas-time lapses