RRR - Ive been thinking about my ABC goals for some weeks now. A would be a sub 3:30 but I'd have to have a REALLY good day! Plus with being a first timer im sure there are many unknowns on the day ready to trip me up. I dont feel i could be better prepared though, i've done the miles and know the route inside out and have run 80% of the roads daily for the last 4 months. B goal would be 3:45, going off at 3:30 pace and tailing off is what i think is more realistic. C goal is just getting round and enjoying the day.
Good plan mate, varied targets but all achievable depending on how it goes on the day
I think you'll get a sign around Mersey Farm, having done the Manor Avenue straight and then leaving Sale/Ashton on Mersey as that's around the dreaded 19/20 mile mark and also the start of a bleak 1-2 miles through Carrington and then up the Mile Road to Flixton, very boring roads and very few spectators. If you come through that with a bit of a spring still in your step you're good to go as you then come back into Flixton/Urmston where the crowds start building up and you know you're getting nearer and nearer to the finish and regardless of how tired you are, that last mile has the adrenalin kicking back in and a sprint finish over the line
Just caught up on a couple of months of your posts over the last two days. Really interesting to hear the ups and (mostly) downs involved with training for a marathon. Sounded very familiar to me.
I’m following the P&D Light Plan (12 weeks, Up to 55 miles) and have found it tough going to get those long miles in. First time I’ve ever tackled a Spring marathon so those early morning dark, cold, wet 11 milers before work were torture at times. I do like my speedy interval sessions and this P&D plans is more about slower long runs or long tempos, which has been a real change for me. Just hope the legs have some speed in them come 6th April. I’m gonna have a crack at my PB , 3.07, that I set 10 years ago in Dublin. Apart from missing 4 days training with severe Man-flu, training's gone okay. We’ll see.
The main thing I’m worried about isn’t running - its that I’m booked on a flight back to Dublin at 3.35 on the day of the race! Does anyone know what’s my best bet to get back to airport? I was thinking tram into City Centre and then bus to the airport? I don’t think trains to airport are running that day. And will the baggage area take my big old sports bag?
And how do I get my hands on the Race Booklet that was emailed out?
Warren - The race booklet hasn't been e-mailed out this year yet, last year's was sent around the same time that the numbers were posted out, it was basically fleshing out and giving more detail to the instructions on the website, a list of thank yous to various people, adverts etc but e-mailed to save on paper and postage
If the airport trains aren't running (which it appears they aren't http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/Content/stationandroadclosures) it might be as well to avoid going back into town and instead trying to get a bus or taxi from Altrincham as by going back into town you're heading away from the airport, whereas Altrincham is probably 20 minutes from the finish line on the tram and then another 10-15 minutes taxi ride to the airport (I work just down the road from Ringway and live in Timperley/Alty)
I'm guessing the replacement bus will call at all the stations on the Manchester to Manchester Airport route which will be quite slow
The baggage area was really efficiently run last year (alot of army staff involved) and I think provided you've only got the one bag and have the relevant numbered label sent out with your race number you'll be fine
If the race starts at 9, are you going to have enough time to catch the flight as best case scenario and avoiding the crush at the start you finish at say 12:15-12:30 that gives you 3 hours to get to the airport and get checked in
RRR - I think you and me will be chasing each other around the route, from the sound of it! Your plan is the same as mine - I did 4.17 last year in Rome and initially I really wanted to go sub 4 (3.59.59 would do me fine!) but like you, I think that's a pipe-dream. After this schedule however I'm similarly hoping I can beat 4.17 but ultimate goal now it to enjoy it and to walk less in the final 6 miles than I did in Rome.
At the end of the day, what time I finish in really doesn't matter - I'm not chasing a GFA or anything so even if I only beat 4.17 by one minute, it's still a new PB... A friend of mine runs marathons all the time and she barely knows what her finish times are for the races - she does them purely for the experience and the medals and pays no attention whatsoever to times. As a result, she's really consistent and normally comes in between 4.10 and 4.25 for each of them. At first, I thought she was weird but now I'm thinking 'Great Attitude'.
Kirsty - I've got the Benny Hill theme music going round my head now
You're right though, it's going to be busier than last year, they'll have taken alot of positives for 2013 being so much better than 2012 (they can't manufacture the weather unfortunately).
It's all about enjoying the day, my family should be in Alty and then at the finish line, there will hopefully be some friends dotted around the course and having grown up, worked and lived in Sale and now living in Timperley, there will probably be more than a couple of familiar faces on the course as well as running it
As for another marathon, my heart currently says no, stick to HM from now on but I think I said that last year and if I did well and came across a training plan next year that was more than a get you round but not as intense as P&D or Higdon......
Positive vibes all round, dropping to 4 runs seems to be working for me and a weekly mileage of around 45 rather than the 50+ that P&D dictated
Similar next week including the final LSR of 20 miles on Monday night and then into the taper where the longest run will be the Wilmslow Half 2 weeks before the big day so lots of under 10 milers which is a period I really enjoyed this time last year.
Tishtosh - I'm with you, my legs, thighs and groin are complaining but not in pain (touch wood) and I only feel them when I'm out running as opposed to day to day acitvities
SKD14 - You're not wrong about P&D, on paper it didn't look like that much of a step up but I'm not sure whether it is the mileage or the running 5 days a week as opposed to 4. Either way, I've had to adjust the last few weeks and reduce the proposed taper mileage too
Sod's Law that Manchester was its stereotypical wet and dank self this morning for a 9 miler and now as I gaze out of the office window it's glorious sunshine and mild
Gloves and hat are now back in the cupboard and am looking forward to getting out for a final run of the week tomorrow, somewhere between 9 and 12 miles dependent on how I feel (would normally do a 9 and then go out for 3 with RRR junior but he's away for the weekend)
I believe you're supposed to have 3 race plans, the ultimate goal, the satisfactory goal and the that'll have to do goal
At this stage I'm no longer concerned by time (which was a constant source of concern during the race last year)
Sub 4 would be nice but I think that's a pipe dream, beating last year's 4:15 would be great and even if I'm slower but finish that will be fine too, I'd perhaps like to enjoy the event a bit more and walk less toward the end, if at all
It would be nice to think that being overambitious with P&D this time around has brought some benefits but we shall see
Jelly Babies have perhaps missed a trick here, a marathon pack could be brought out with consumption instructions on the packet and perhaps some form of race proof packaging that keeps them "fresh". I may take something similar to this to supplement the gels as I wasn't overkeen on the shot blocks last year (a bit like eating cubes of jelly)
Great stuff Karl,if I remember rightly they trickled through last year and didn't seem to go out in any particular order. They've apparently all been packed up ready to go and should be arriving soon
The race booklet was e-mailed to save paper but was quite a good read
I tried jelly babies on some training runs last year but they didn't click for me,not least trying to keep them from going a bit sticky.I'm not a great fan of gels but have found the GU ones go down with a swig of water and aren't as sickly (coffee flavour) bit like drinking rollos
Off out for a late one (8 miles) when Mrs RRR gets back from working in London so a bit of a weird running time for me but it gets me day off tomorrow and means I should be fresher and more rested for Friday/Saturday
Have also invested in one of those spiky massage balls to keep working on the groin in between physio sessions