15West


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Trump & Clinton

Posted: Today at 10:16

At least we're out of the evil EU so we can do some great trade deals with Trump.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: Today at 08:29
ML84 wrote (see)
Nice session 15West. Does the Daniels book differ quite a bit from P and D?

It's kind of based on the same principles I guess....but yes, quite different. Daniels just gives two quality sessions a week, the rest you make up yourself. One difference is Daniels has the VO2 type intervals earlier in the training cycle. One of the sessions is the long run which is a slow long run every 3 weeks, the other two weeks have faster sections at tempo or marathon pace...one example is the session I showed on the previous page. The other session is either VO2 intervals or tempo run/intervals. I put in a MLR on another day, and the rest is slow runs of 5 to 8ish mi.

Currently I am doing following...Mon Vo2/Tempo, Tue MLR, Wed Easy, Thu Easy, Fri LSR/Tempo/MP,  Sat off/easy, Sun Easy.

As I said before Daniels is quite specific in the paces to run at based on your VDOT number, but these paces are same as LT/VO2 etc paces in P&D. One thing Daniels has is different tempo (or LT) paces depending on time at that pace.

I have a Daniels pace spreadsheet too if anyone interested!

I need to start drinking a bit less on the weekends.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: Yesterday at 09:49

Ian - it is hard...my knees are just starting to cotton to that. I only tried it as fancied something different as have followed P&D for quite a few marathons now.

Have a trumptastic weekend all.

Trump & Clinton

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 21:58

America First, and theywill be protected by God...the lucky bastards.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 14:36

...also....that session looks a bit hard.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 14:20

Spoons - certainly wasn't me. For 2 weeks time I put in following entry:

19mi (2mi E, 4x6min LT rec 1min, 60min E, 20min LT, 2mi E)

and this magically appeared in the description:

2 Mile at 7:34 min/Mile (E) in 15:08
4x [6 min at 6:04 min/Mile (T) for 1 Mile,
recover for 1 min]
60 min at 7:34 min/Mile (E) for 7.9 Mile
20 min at 6:04 min/Mile (T) for 3.3 Mile
2 Mile at 7:34 min/Mile (E) in 15:08

Daniels uses something called VDOTs, which is a way of mapping current form to training paces and is just a number. Those paces are for VDOT 58. So - it must have determined my VDOT to be 58 from a previous race, or races...maybe parkrun, or maybe other, longer races. Maybe it gets from Power of 10 or RunBritain?

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 13:46

Not sure where it got paces from, and yes they are pretty close. It's useful, but a bit disturbing.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 11:10

This is a bit spooky...I used google calendar to put together my training schedule. I called the calendar Daniels, and filled in each day...and on one of the quality sessions days for each week google has filled in the description automatically.

So, for example, for today's run I entered 16mi (2mi E, 6x6min LT 1min rec, 60min E)

and google went and put this in description:

2 Mile at 7:34 min/Mile (E) in 15:08
6x [6 min at 6:04 min/Mile (T) for 1 Mile,
recover for 1 min]
60 min at 7:34 min/Mile (E) for 7.9 Mile

So...it worked out I'm using Daniels marathon A training plan, and got my training paces from somewhere.

Google scares me.

Are you and "in" or an "out"?

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 10:24

Maybe China have got it right.

P&D spring marathon 2017

Posted: 20/01/2017 at 08:24

Apparently Bekele fell over at the start in Dubai!  

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