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Shades Marathon Training

Posted: Yesterday at 11:30

Shades, no problems about the Ladies 10K.  Hopefully we'll catch up soon

I hadn't really thought about pacing people in before.  However, didn't Paula get into a bit of strife about that (getting paced by men), although she hadn't broken any rule that was there at the time as far as I'm aware, and she obviously ran the marathons herself!

I still think Paula is among the best athletes that's ever lived.  The fact that her record still stands where as the men's record gets chipped away at fairly regularly is testament to that I think.  When you read up about this though the question arises as to why aren't the Kenyan women (for example) now the world record holders?  Even the answer to that is complicated as there are social/discrimination issues in parts of Africa that restrict women from running, which people think has a bearing on it, whereas the men are unrestricted to an extent.  The book "Running with the Kenyans" touches a bit on this, as male runners are respected/encouraged (regardless of if they're earning any money or not) whereas the women runners aren't as much.

Regardless of all that, what Paula achieved is amazing I think.

Day off for me today and tomorrow  I got a 20-mile ride in this morning.  It was bad weather but I quite enjoyed it

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: Yesterday at 07:18
SK, I'm glad you had good news after your scan. Enjoy your shoes

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 27/08/2014 at 15:02

mowzer, I can't believe the running you do.  A 63 miler followed by another race the next day.  Unbelievable!!

Shades, I will try and find out the rules around the A-standards and qualifying as it has intrigued me.  However, if it was British Athletics who pulled the plug on those two athletes competing what does that say to those up-and-coming marathoners?  I don't think it's a good message at all.

Anyway, I got a nice cycle ride in after work last night.  It was nice riding conditions and I really enjoyed it, although I found myself thinking about my running mate a lot.

It's a bit of a morbid topic, but I've already had non-running mates say "See, I told you running was no good for you".  In response, all I've really said is that a) non-runners do also drop dead from time to time b) I don't want to speculate, but his issue may have had nothing to do with running at all c) there are other fitness and mental health benefits from running etc etc.  What do you all say if/when you get challenged by non-runners about your running?

He was being totally serious, but one of my close non-running mates (overweight!) said "See, I told you running was no good for you.  Look who out of the two of us has the achilles issue!".  The trouble is, when you look at it in isolation, I suppose he's right.  Not that I need to defend myself to anyone, but it does get on my nerves a bit.

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 27/08/2014 at 10:01

Being the geek that I am, I checked Power of 10 and saw that there are 8 men who have made the Euro qualifying time in 2014.  I don't know what the dates were for qualifying for the Euros though.  I'm guessing Mo was never a contender and 4 others ran at the commonwealths, leaving 3 who have made the time in 2014.


S32, my issue starts more or less level with the ankle and goes down towards the heel, but doesn't reach it.  It's getting better now, but when I used to squeeze the achilles at that point it was sore/tender.

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 27/08/2014 at 08:35

Shades, regarding the Euros I got the impression (maybe incorrectly?) that British Athletics could still have sent two individuals and not competed in the team event, but chose not to.  I agree though, it's a shame that there aren't more making the qualifying times.

I hope your niggle clears up soon.

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 26/08/2014 at 22:11

Back to running, I was listening to MarathonTALK and I'm a couple of weeks behind.  There is an interesting story as to why there were no British men running the recent Euro Champs marathon.  There were 3 men who had been selected to run the marathon as they had made the 2:17 qualifying time.  However, one of those men was also selected for the Commonwealths and decided to do that and so couldn't do the Euros as well as they were so close together.  In their infinite wisdom, British Athletics pulled the whole team (i.e., the remaining two men, neither of who had ran in the Commonwealths), and so didn't send anyone to run.  This is because apparently there is a "team" element to the euros, and there has to be 3 people per team to score.

What a strange decision.  I have been googling to find a source for this story, and have come across a blog by Andi Jones (one of the runners who had qualified but then was told he couldn't run) where he mentions it in passing at the top of this post.

Unbelievable decision really.  The governing body basically decided not to send runners, even though they had met the qualifying standard.

What is your parkrun strategy?

Posted: 26/08/2014 at 14:27
Andrew Thomas 34 wrote (see)

It's important to remember that training is not racing, and vice versa. Going along to a parkrun each week and running a flat out 5k is not something you can fit into an effective training strategy. You will soon plateau, or times get worse, or get injured. Maybe use parkrun to improve your speed, but not every week. There's no substitute for proper aerobic training.

There was one of the forum-6 coaches on here who had a strategy about 5Ks and doing all the other runs per week sloooowly.  I've never tried it but it caught my eye as being interesting.  It went something like:

- Run a 5K fast.

- Run 40 miles a week slowly.

- At the end of the week, run 5K fast.

- Repeat until you stop getting PBs.  Then decide if you have time to run 50 miles a week, and repeat.  If you haven't got time, start introducing speed work etc.

Has anyone ever done something like this?

(Edited to add, because it was a forum-6 coach, it must have been marathon training that he was talking about specifically.  I can't remember now). 

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 26/08/2014 at 12:09

mamafox, I don't know his exact age but I know he was in his early 50s.  I also don't know his history with regards to heart problems.  I would think that everyone in the club knew him as he organised things like annual family camping trips and other activities, as well being one of the coaches.

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 26/08/2014 at 10:51

Emmy, yes - I can't really believe it.  News like this often puts things into perspective, doesn't it?

Only last week I was in touch with him about the local cycling club, which he was also a member of.  I was asking for advice on which training group to go along with and other general cycling queries, and as always he was very helpful.  A real shock

Shades Marathon Training

Posted: 26/08/2014 at 08:24

Hi all, good running from everyone and well done Shades/Keith for your prizes!  As people have said, a prize is a price so don't knock it!!

Bringing the mood down a lot, but I woke up to a tragic email from my club's chairman that I never really thought I'd read.  I wasn't there, but a club mate passed away last night.  He was leading a Monday night training run and suffered a massive heart attack and apparently the paramedics said there was nothing that anyone could have done.  He leaves a wife and 3 children.  I can't quite believe it really.  He was very popular in the club, on the committee etc and I imagine it must have been extremely upsetting for those other people that were running with him.  Very sad

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