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Cotswold 226 - Any Pirates Doing It in 2016

Posted: 29/05/2016 at 08:06

I shall be at 113 and 226

Ironman Lanzarote 2016

Posted: 29/05/2016 at 07:57

Seren, Slim, FF, Posh T, Symes, Hokori

Great reports, read them all word for word

Riveting reads

First Half Ironman done- bike help needed!

Posted: 26/05/2016 at 14:21

Agree with many of the comments above, to be strong over half distance you need to be regularly riding 5-6+ hours total a week in my opinion.  Also challenge yourself to ride harder:

Stay in a gear longer before stepping down
Maintain a target pace
Challenge yourself every week or two around a local 25 mile loop

Above all, riding with others who will push you is a big plus.

The times ive had strong half distance rides have been at the peek on IM training, i.e. lots of road miles. 

I do rate spin classes if you work at them, but depends on the class, instructor and how hard you work.  A couple of years ago I attended a great series of classes (great class leader), everyone was up for it and were hard sessions, even did a few double spins (90 mins). 

Ironman Lanzarote 2016

Posted: 26/05/2016 at 06:34
Great reports Seren and Slim, both great reads.

I love race reports

Ironman Lanzarote 2016

Posted: 23/05/2016 at 19:59
Pudge, hope you're recovering and back to tip top.

MC, great report, really good read

Ironman Lanzarote 2016

Posted: 17/05/2016 at 10:47

Is the EZY 06.05 from Gatwick?  See you in the bar at 04.30

Bike vs Swim training - comparative gains?

Posted: 05/05/2016 at 12:33

Seren, I wasn't implying the swim is 1/3 bike duration.

The question was about the amount of time investment for relative gains i.e. a relative gain of 20 mins from 2-3 hours swim training vs a 60 minute relative gain from 6-9 hours bike training.

Putting it another way, if a mid packer is going to commit to 2-3 hours extra training a week I think there is almost as much chance they'll gain 20 mins overall by focussing their training on swimming.  Im not saying they'll swim 20 mins quicker in the pool but if they focussed a portion on OW training, swimming straight, drafting, optimising their line, then factor the benefits of swimming with the faster pull the sum is greater than the parts.

What's not fully understood by many if the benefit on the bike.  As far as im aware the draft zone is still 10m for age groupers.  I thought its only the Pro's that now have 12m?

Putting that aside, if you just consider that being a better swimmer could mean their are 360 more people to pass you on the bike, that's 360 small pulls as riders overtake you, its up to 2 hours (360 x 20 seconds) legally in their draft zone as you drop back.

Bike vs Swim training - comparative gains?

Posted: 04/05/2016 at 21:56

Not to mention pasties disintegrate if they get wet 

Outlaw bike feedstation 24th July 2016

Posted: 04/05/2016 at 21:39

Will be great to have you there Kanga

List of willing volunteers 
Cougie (very likely) 
Mr Seren 
Flat Footed 
Teapot One 
Duda (provisional) 
Mini Dudas (provisional) 
Not so Jr Magna Carter 1 
Not so Jr Magna Carter 2 
Boo & Mrs Boo (provisional) 
Mrs Digger 
Digger (after swim) 
Mixed Grill 
Mother of Mixed Grill
Mrs Scuba 
Scuba jnr 1 
Scuba jnr 2 
Nurse Ratched (for a wee while, if possible, before my jog) 
Mrs Cheggers 
A Cheggers child 
Happychap (possibly)
Mrs Bristolsparks
Button Mushroom
Mrs Button Mushroom
Mini 'Shroom
Nutty Nikki
Mini Nut 1
Mini Nut 2
Frags (back-up banana)
Little Sister
The Evil Pixie
Bobs Your Father + Bobs Your Grandfather (probably)

Bike vs Swim training - comparative gains?

Posted: 04/05/2016 at 21:07

Just posted this online having seen many people dismissing swim training.  Interested if anyone has an opinion?

I think people misjudge the comparative gains that can be made on the swim, it’s like there's a confirmation bias affect, i.e. the bike duration is longer, therefore it’s easier to save time bike training.

How many people think about gaining 60 minutes on the bike with 6-9 hours a week average bike training, vs those that think about gaining 20 minutes on the swim with 2-3 hours a week average swim training? 

What about if you invested a comparative amount on swimming? How many who are prepared to spend £3000 on a bike are happy to spend £1000 on swim coaching?

A good ironman swim isn’t just about swim training, its also about confidence, start position, managing the turns (how many optimise their swim line or draft for the whole swim course?) swimming mid pack front pack also puts you in faster moving water (overall pull from other swimmers) so there is an small exponential benefit in open water

A good ironman swim is better than the sum of its parts, as suggested by someone else, a good swim is less tiring and in my experience set you up for a more positive day. 

Now the big benefit, a faster swim means a better legal draft on the bike. Not cheating, draftzone is 10m (5 bike lengths), 8 meters off someones back wheel. Just like the pro’s do, youll have a much better chance of sitting in a draft legal (and faster moving) line of bikes if you come out mid front pack after the swim. There’s still a massive draft gain at 10m, far better than pushing round the course on your own.

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