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Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Yesterday at 21:45


Will have a word with Mrs Bus then and see if I'm allowed out to play. What time you off? (assuming we're not snowed in of course!)

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Yesterday at 19:24

Damn, forgot it's the last day of the month tomorrow - may have to run tomorrow instead of Sunday to get the stats right! Thanks Philip 

Is that Finchamstead Sunday by the way? I was tempted, but it's a fair distance and I've got a lot of 'stuff' to do Sunday...

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 29/01/2015 at 17:05

ps - Matt, I think SG has been kidnapped by a fox if I've read FB right.....

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 29/01/2015 at 17:05
RicF wrote (see)

Fair enough Lit. Seems a lot of importance has been placed on the word 'information'. And technically the weight/speed relationship can't be linear, because if it was, by the time I hit my target weight, I should be able to run sub 30 minutes for 10k.

I won't. But I will run faster than I did when I weighed 10kg heavier. Its up to others to find out their own best weight, if they can.

At last - he agrees 

I too have absolutely no doubt I'd run Wokey quicker if I was 3lb lighter - just not 90 secs quicker!! 

CC82 - I love food too! Eating sensibly for the past two months has not been helped by the fact that my wife, who is a cookery writer, has been recipe testing cakes and puddings!  Despite distributing as much as we can to neighbours and work colleagues it has still meant a big increase in my pudding and cake intake 

Dachs - no snow here yet. Blinding session by the way!

10M hillly, very muddy XC today. Was OK, but legs feel a bit mashed after - nearly time for the Wokey mini taper to start, so no more long runs!

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 28/01/2015 at 19:39

Don't disagree that we can all afford to lose a lot of weight and still have the fuel, and that we will get faster - just can't accept that linear relationship - not even as close!

marrows wrote (see)

RicF - I'd call it a whole lot of 'assertion' rather than 'information'.  You can also find 'information' about how motion control shoes will prevent injury if you are an overpronator (randomised controlled trials failed to confirm this 'fact') and in the 19th century you would find 'information' on how to treat asthma by bloodletting or how to evaluate a person's intellect from the circumference of their head.  I do not dispute that being lighter can make you faster (I am trying to shed a few pounds myself), but I have struggled to find research to back up the numbers that are bandied about.  After PubMed/google Scholar searches I do not see where '2 secs per mile per pound' and '1% speed per 1% weight' come from and suspect they are zombie statistics.  And PMJ, these things can't be worked out from first principles: bodies are complicated, so you can usually come up with a reason why something should happen and another reason why the opposite should happen e.g. 'light body takes less energy to move' vs. 'starved body is reluctant to expend energy'.

We could attempt a randomised controlled trial e.g. two parkruns 4 weeks apart, one group diets in between, the other doesn't.

Well put Marrows   My own case in point was the before and after holiday example I gave. Very little difference from training to take account of, so the only real difference was my weight. OK, I didn't run a before and after half, but I know damn well if I had run one just before the holiday there's absolutely know way on Earth it would have been 1:17:20 compared to the 1:19:53 I did with the extra 5lbs on board!

Anyway - good to hear the Achilles is holding up. Fingers crossed you can make the Wokingham start line!

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 28/01/2015 at 14:55

ps - went out with the intention of doing either a tempo or 3x2M at HMP today. Failed miserably! My legs were obviously not up to the job from the off, and the wind didn't help! Just did a 7M steady instead, though to punish my lazy legs I made them do mile 6 fast - came out as 5:38.


Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 28/01/2015 at 14:53

Used to have some DS racers, which were superb. Anyone tried the Saucony Virrata 2? They look pretty good - light, but cushioned, and are £40 at the mo.


As for weight - I guess the easiest way for me to get a PB at Wokingham then is to chop an arm off!!

Actually, the most sensible thing would have been to have had a dry January I guess! I totally get that power to weight ratio is important for race speed, I just don't believe the 1% "rule".

My weight varies by 4 or 5 lbs regularly, but my times stay about the same. Back in September when I ran 1;19:53, I was my heaviest all year as it was post holiday and I just don't believe that if I'd run the same race just before holiday (5lbs lighter - 3%) it would have been 2.5 mins quicker!


Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 27/01/2015 at 22:16

Scott - good to see that pace coming back!

Dachs - that's some speedy miles just thrown in there!

Rob - you are going to need a week off after all that threshold work!

Iron - I'd still rather be in Lichtenstein than Aylesbury 

Ric - remind m where the 1% comes from? I'd find it difficult to believe that, all other factors aside, simply by losing 3lbs before Wokingham I could run it over 1.5 mins faster than the weight I am now. By the same logic, if I lost 8 lbs, I'd be looking at a sub 1:15! 

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 26/01/2015 at 22:22

Ric - seems like only last year you were advocating a tuna bagel before, during and after every run 

Most of my morning runs are done before breakfast (more out of necessity than anything else). I generally do my summer LSRs before breakfast too, but find that at this time of year I just can't get up so early on a Sunday!

My main problem is I just like food and drink too much! If I thought losing a significant amount of weight would change my times from anything other than mediocre then it might be worth it, but life's too short, and I'm too old, to pay that price! Would still like to shift just a few pounds though 

Matt - quality running. I'm not surprised the 5.5M felt hard - proves you are still human after all 

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 26/01/2015 at 17:41

Oh - Iron - Liechetenstein Alps is it? Pah - you think that's exotic - I'm off to Gawcott on Wednesday!!

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