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P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: Yesterday at 18:55

15W faster than you- I wish! sub 2:45 again I wish !!!

Scott my target has been to complete the plan which is a big challenge in its self, then not sure. At the moment sub 3:00 Manchester (2:59 will do nicely) , some sort of as fast as poss recovery run in VMLM the week after, then an all out effort 3 weeks after that for a trail marathon I have where 2:59 would be a absolute dream. This may all change could decided to do just one of Manchester and London???

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: Yesterday at 13:34

mb I would defiantly choose the LT run in my mind its much more structured to a marathon plan than 5 x 600 intervals-Its also a lot harder so must be better for you 

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: Yesterday at 12:30

Wenty you might be surprised and actually find it easier than a flat marathon, that's easier not faster though! The change of cadence and effort over a route like that helps me, you can not run it with even effort though-the ups will be harder on the cadio than the downs (just try running down at the same heart rate as you do the ups!!), and the downs harder on the legs.When I ran snowdonia that has about 3000 foot of climb and they say it is about 15-20 minutes slower than a flat marathon, although I actually ran it faster than I did London a few months earlier as my training suited the hilly course.Good Luck!

Well how to make sundays 24 even harder than 24 would be anyway=run 12 with 7@LT  2 days before! I had told my self that I would run the LT at hmp and no faster and if that was feeling too much I would slow abit.

4 warm up=too fast at 7.00mm. 7 LT too fast progressive from 6:05 to 5:45 with av of 5:57mm. then 1 cool down at MP!

Don't quite know why I started so fast on both the warm up and LT but once I was a couple of miles into the LT I thought my first ever sub 37 10k was on so went for it and got it 36:50 I know its garmin based and not a race but it was over 2 laps of a 5k race route-anyway very pleased with that but what will the 24 be like now????


P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 04/03/2015 at 12:26
15 West- yes PnD 70-85 18 week-
No carbs at all during the marathons- well that's the plan!

15 today did slower than usual- 7:50 out 7:30 back for av of 7:40 mm which is about MP+15% - shows I am apprehensive about the rest of the week!

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 04/03/2015 at 07:49
Lit no gels as I am trying to be better at fat burning and have tried loads of gels ect but all seem to give me stomach problems, also I try to avoid sugar wherever possible so have a mental issue with consuming massive amounts by way of gels.
No water as it's going to be cold, not running it particularly fast so don't expect to sweat much, and don't want to carry water with me. I plan on having water on my marathons but only to thirst so would expect that to be just a few sips every now and again.
Just started reading waterlogged by professor Tim Noakes- like some of the theory in there.

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 04/03/2015 at 07:26
Morning all.

The plan has some hard session for me this week- today 15, Friday 12 w7@HMP and Sunday 24!
24 what that will be longest none race run ever- 22 didn't sound too bad but 24! I know I wil have a crazy idea to "just" do the extra 2.2 ?? And it will be an out and back so the battle to keep it to 24 will happen when I am still feeling ok at 12 miles. Also trying that run without fuel including water.

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 28/02/2015 at 21:14
16 tomorrow ! For a Sunday that seems like a rest day! But then it's all 18+ Sunday's until week before marathon.
So last chance for a good drink and excessive food I a Saturday for a while, 2 large glasses red wine, steak & chips- now onto home made rice pudding and a few large glasses Madiera wine- I will make that 16 hard work!!

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 28/02/2015 at 17:09

Nice progressive Andrew- I like those sessions but they are really hard!

Well thanks end of Feb!, My stats are;

326 miles, 23,000 foot climb, 7:35 mm pace.

Highest ever mileage month and a short month too-also first time I have ran every day of the month (with shortest run 10k).

Pleased with how Feb went but need to back off the pace now on all but key runs, I need to trust in the plan more, still scared that regular slower running will make me a slower runner-think Seb Coe wrote something like "long slow runs makes you a slow runner" it was more catchy than that though!

Sheffield social

Posted: 27/02/2015 at 13:37

Interesting Carterusm, I am also tweeking my diet and hoping to PB at Manchester without taking on any fuel mid run.

I usually try to get as many carbs as possible during a marathon build up but this time I am reducing the carbs, having more fats-mainly dairy and trying to avoid sugars whenever possible. My spring marathon plans are Manchester hopefully PB, then London at a more relaxed pace, then White peak at who knows what pace.

I want to run all 3 without any gels etc, Training at the moment is going ok but feeling hard-80+ miles most weeks all again without any fuel or water, longest single run so far without fuel or water has been 22 miles. If its warm for the marathons I will have some water during the race but only the odd sip.

I am like you Carterusm trying to become better at fat burning and less reliant on carbs/sugars, but I am not that strong willed as I can not miss my morning pre run toast with loads of nut butter and a large coffee!

P&D Spring Marathon Thread 2015

Posted: 27/02/2015 at 06:58
Thanks all for the advice, I know it makes a lot of sense- I will try next session with much slower warm up, and recovery then try to maybe be a little quicker with the reps.
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