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First run, feel awful and deflated :-(

Posted: 09/09/2014 at 23:27

You can't run because you haven't been running - vicious circle.  It is something that you need to practise.

I'm practically the same age and weight zone as you and I feel awful running 2 miles at the moment - last year I ran 60 miles a week at one point, a sub 4 h marathon and then loads of HMs and 10Ks at decent (for me) ~7 to 7:30 min/mile pace.. now, after 6 months off, i can't even training run at 9 min/mile for 10 minutes without feeling like an octogenarian smoker.

But the one thing I do know is - it *will* get better, it *will* get easier - just keep it up.  3 times a week is enough to improve in leaps and bounds.  Just keep it slow to start with.  If you think you are at the right pace, you're probably too fast - If I'd have known going to slow down when I started running I'd have been way better than I ever got - I wasted so much time/effort racing every training run for a couple of years until I came on runners world.

Oh - and by the way, my first training run  when I started running at the age of about 36, I made it about 1/2 a mile in 6 minutes, then collapsed on the grass verge and gave up... same again the next time, and the next 3/4 mile - 4 months later I completed the Great North Run without stopping and never looked back.

From 0 to a Marathon in 22 weeks.

Posted: 22/06/2014 at 15:51

Yeah - Steph.. failure would have been bottling out, not doing over 92 Km of The Wall in a single day!

From 0 to a Marathon in 22 weeks.

Posted: 22/06/2014 at 00:24

You did 56 though, 20 more than I could!  I feel bad for you , but you know you'll bounce back and try some other epic event

How difficult is a half marathon compared to a 10k? 4 months enough time?

Posted: 21/06/2014 at 23:42

It's less feeling the benefits - its more *not* feeling the muscle soreness/tiredness after a hard session.

If I do a really hard interval session or a race and don't have it in the hour after, the next day I have issues going down stairs, general pain/soreness.  If I do have 4-500 Kcals straight after, in the right ratio, the feeling is much much reduced (YMMV).

How difficult is a half marathon compared to a 10k? 4 months enough time?

Posted: 21/06/2014 at 18:38

My legs feel that too - I've just had to suck it up

Eating/drinking recovery food 4:1 carbrotein in the 30-45 min after running helps mine a lot.

Marathon training they felt like it all the time, but I got over it once I'd run a couple of miles into a training run.

Zero - Marathon advice/support!!

Posted: 21/06/2014 at 18:09

Best way for me is progressive motivation.  Set some targets:

Parkrun, then book a couple of 5Ks, then some 10Ks, then a couple of Halfs in the lead up, spread out.  You'll then train for each one coming up and knowing you have a race in 2 weeks keeps you going (or me anyway!).

With race times you can then easily then tweak your training paces to train properly as you improve - I use mcmillanrunning.com to calculate these.

I also have a graphed spreadsheet showing my cumulative mileage as the year goes on (helped by a GPS watch logging everything on Garmin Connect) as I like stats/tech.


Posted: 21/06/2014 at 18:04

I'd have at least 3 or 4 x 10K or longer runs on new shoes to race in them - found out the hard way couple of years back, 2x5K wasn't enough to simulate feet swelling in a half... blisters and pain

Tape/plaster your nipples too just in case in the HM

From 0 to a Marathon in 22 weeks.

Posted: 21/06/2014 at 16:39

Ah no, marathons (or racing a half) require getting up early, ~3 hours pre race and eating a decent breakfast, high carb - for me about 4-500 kcals, toast or cereal (or usually a bacon sandwich or 2!).  This can mean waking and then going back to sleep sometimes

I can't run comfortably If I've eaten more than a mouthful or two in the preceeding 90 mins really - races I'd carb load in the days before and have 3-500 cals 3 hours pre race to recharge my liver glycogen.  But long runs in training, water usually - train on little race on more.  It may not be sound advice but I always race way easier than I've got close to in training this way.  I then eat in the 30-45 min after running, high protein/carb with lots of liquid to stave of DOMS the next day.

From 0 to a Marathon in 22 weeks.

Posted: 21/06/2014 at 01:46

Good luck Steph!  It's really happening

DCRainmaker posts pics mid races with ~38 min 10Ks and Tri's - you might be able to manage some of the scenery at least?

Biggun wrote (see)

Would you do long runs first thing on an empty stomach, Daeve?

Yup - up to 15/16 miles - over that I tend to have breakfast and do them later in the day.  I can't eat in the morning anyway until I've been awake for a couple of hours or I feel ill generally.  Coffee, and then ~4-500 mL water before I set off if its warm is the usual routine.

Fading At Mile 20

Posted: 15/06/2014 at 13:00

Very similar to what I found in the past Redjeep.  1:38 HM PB, 3 weeks of taper (no issues) later 3:58 MPB with massive fade (previous year 1:45 HM, 4:18 M 3 weeks later, both PBs).  I found P&Ds mid week long runs helped a fair bit, and next time I'm cutting out the speedwork and knocking the LSRs to 1:30 under MP to get more time on my feet per mile which seems to be key for me - less the distance when i fade, but more at ~ the 3 hour mark to some extent regardless of pace.  

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