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Posted: 01/12/2010 at 20:56

Keir -

I used to race on the bike against someone called Keir O'Donnell many years ago - he was a very good rider, with Yeovil CC I think - 2nd or 3rd in the GHS National Schoolboys 10 mile TT in '84, and was challenging for aplace on the GB Students team for the Worlds the same year that I rode.

He's the only Keir I've known until you on here, so wondered if you were one and the same.

Managed 12 in the snow and ice today - mostly on grass verge and canal tow path as the roads were too busy by the time I got out and the pavements too slippy. Caught in a minor blizzard, and back in the dark. Ah, how I've missed the joys of running!

If I keep this up my December milage might even surpass Ode's "paltry"  November 165 !! (How are you mate - must catch up for a run once I've cast off another 30 seconds a mile.)

PTB - What Lemmy would look like if he ran Marathons?? (From his good side obviously!)

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Posted: 01/12/2010 at 12:25


Bike Thong is what you want - honest - sounds pervy, but works well.

Keir - You don't originate from the Yeovil area do you?

RWH  - Sorry to hear.

Promised myself I wan't going to look back in here until I'd got my first 15 under my belt, but as I'm about to venture out in to the snow, I thought I'd do an Oates and say "I'm just going outside - I may be some time..."


Posted: 01/12/2010 at 11:28


 Which hotel have you booked?

 Apparently train goes from Amstrdam Schpol to Rotterdam 3 times an hour and costs about 20 euros. Takes about half an hour.


Posted: 17/11/2010 at 09:22
Class as ever Corinth.


Posted: 15/11/2010 at 22:06


Posted: 15/11/2010 at 21:56
Oh, and you're right Nam - i am a bit bored tonight (Spooks finshed last week, and i haven't got round to practcing the guitar this evening like i said i was going to, so I'm feeling at a bit of a loose end), but i don't think that makes my views any less valid does it?


Posted: 15/11/2010 at 21:50
Squeakz wrote (see)

As a nation founded on Christian beliefs we celebrate Christmas not the festival of winter.

Spoken like a true Christian immigrant / invader!!

You see the trouble with British identity is that even those of us who would generally be described as "native" have lost sight of our roots (or have never been widely enough educated in them to begin with?)

Christmas - on the 25th December - where is the historical reference for that (in the Bristish Isles or anywhere else for that matter?) A conveniently close date to pagan Winter Soltice celebrations though - changing the culture of the native people of this land.

Easter - now, why do we think that falls when it does, (and infact, why is it even called Easter?) - again Christian immigrants subverting the resident culture  of the Britons.

So, how far back should we go to decide what is sacred and what is progress? If you met me, or my GF, or my kids, you'd say we'd not look out of place at a BNP rally, and yet one and all the descendants of immigrants within the last 150yrs.

Maybe a line should be drawn, but where, and who decides? Its no wonder we have an issue with natonal identity.

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Posted: 15/11/2010 at 21:04
TR wrote (see
DoT - nice to see you. Speed work isnt required, its a luxury. I'm going baxter basics this time.

"Speedwork" is a relative term mate - all I mentioned was intervals  - speed needn't neccessarily come in to it! I'm still at the stage where I'm trying to get my legs to remember how to run faster than 7:30 pace, even over 800 metres!!

Oh, and if anybody wants a nice layer of fat to keep then cosy over the winter, I've got about half a stone I'll gladly donate!


Posted: 15/11/2010 at 20:56


the easy stuff first -

I'm good thanks. A little unfit, but then consistent hard work does that to you some times, and my unscheduled trip in to the operating thatre didn't help. Just starting back with the training and managed 12 miles at a reasonable ish pace this evening.

Plan is to do a Mara in the Spring - I'm in London but may not "race" that as I've promised to support C as she has a club place for her debut Mara - so if she asks me to run with her I will. If so then I'm looking at Paris or Edinburgh, but don't know when either of them close entries.

Now, without this country's long history of generous exploitation of immigrant workers, I wouldn't be here (Irish roots), and neither would my GF (Italian roots), and even if i was here, my kids wouldn't be (their mum has German roots).

I'd also argue that our historically aggressive foreign policies have led us to a place where we face a moral obligation to keep our doors open to people from lands that we've previously exploited, but also have produced the foundation for the terrorist threat we face from some of those whom we let in.

I have a long held belief that when going to someone else's home you should respect their house  rules. On a global scale I think this means that those coming to the UK should respect our national language (ie make the effort to learn it), our national culture, and our national laws.  Trouble is though that so many people "native" to this country don't tick all ( or even some) of those boxes, which kind of makes a shakey foundation to be preaching to others from.

 So, we have a history of short sighted policy around both foreign affairs, and home affairs, and I don't think we should really be surprised at the place we find ourselves in if we take a step back and a long hard look at ourselves.

My ideal scenario would not be very far from  what i outlined earlier - get rid of anyone who isn't prepared to contribute to a harmonious and productive society, and only let in those who can add real value. The reality being far more complex than this though, and the legacies of historical policy being all around us, I thnk we all know that nothing is really going to change.

Oh, and as far as the NHS is concerned - I think its on a slippery slope as it is. Any real rationing of access according to passport is largely unworkable, but that won't matter eventually as when it's paired down to its essential bare bones services (not long), everything else will only be available to those who can pay anyway. - whether thats a good thing or not depends on how well we reward people who do make a genuine contribution to society - but thats another debate entirely!


Posted: 15/11/2010 at 20:26

KK - Its very flattering of you to ask, but I think you'll find you're already married

Anyway- No - not THAT type of serious!

- I'm just suggesting that any views which take a tighter than liberal line on Immigration can produce some very emotional responses on this type of open forum - whether made in partial jest or complete seriousness.

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