John Bach

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Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 23/05/2016 at 12:52

Nice one Jimbob - I did warn you re the course - feedback re the new course has been very good. No, the hills in Snopwdonia aren't as tough as the ones you experienced yesterday! My head over-ruled my heart and I didn't toe the start line - wasn't worth the risk. As it stands I'm very much doubtful for the Trail Marathon Wales now

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 16/05/2016 at 16:09

Glad the link worked ok - it should give you a good idea of what to expect, although sometimes ignorance is bliss!? I've just had that email as well - I'll be having words with the organiser about being quoted - I think I will have to keep a low profile in case I get any grief from runners re my (brief) course notes!!

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 16/05/2016 at 13:55

Cheers Jimbob. I've got to say the new route is better than the old one. To help you map out/get a better idea of the route, I set out below a link to the Strava details (I hope the link works):


Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 16/05/2016 at 11:59

Hi Jimbob. Unfortunately I picked up a calf issue which physio thinks may be compartment syndrome - seeing GP this week - haven't run properly in a couple of weeks - therefore not sure if I'm running on Sunday.

I am fairly sure that there is a new route for Sunday. The race organiser mentioned the possibility of a new route a few weeks ago and asked if I could do a recce/give him my thoughts on it. I think he was waiting on confirmation from a local authority re gates access before finalising. Brief course notes which I gave him:

From the GwydirPark car park, the first (and last) quarter of a mile is the flattest section of the course. Just after a quarter of a mile you turn right and head up the hill towards the Marin Trail car park. There is a relatively short (0.4 mile) sharp climb of over 200 feet before the road turns right to head to Llanrhychwyn. There is a slight downhill/relatively flat section where you can admire the views across/down the ConwyValley before the road starts to climb up towards Llanrhychwyn. The climb (approximately 400 feet) up to/through Llanrychwyn goes on for just under 1.5 miles although it is 3 distinct stages, albeit with hardly any rest bite between each. Just under 2 ¼ miles in, the road finally descends towards Llyn Geirionnydd and there is a nice relatively flat section to the far end of the lake (approximately 3 and ¾ of a mile into the race). At the far end of the lake the runners turn right onto the forestry track and the track climbs about 400 feet in the next mile. From this point (just over 4.5 miles in) there is a nice decent of approximately 1.25 miles before meeting the Trefriw – Llyn Crafnant road, where runners turn left and continue up the road to the obelisk. The runners then carry on along the road and do a clockwise lap of just over 2.6 miles around the lake before heading down towards Trefriw. After descending for approximately 2 miles, the runners turn right and head back towards Llanrhychwyn. Just after the 10.5 mile point, the runners face the last notable hill as the road climbs approximately 450 feet in half a mile before the road levels off to the crossroads in Llanrhychwyn where the runners turn left and head back down the hill, which they had run up 10miles previously, to the valley floor and across to the finish in Gwydir Park.



Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 27/04/2016 at 10:47

DG - Snowdonia is certainly one to enjoy. I've done 8 different marathons and Snowdonia is, in my opinion, easily the best!!

Jimbo - congrats on the 10min PB/1st sub 4. Blackpool is one of the marathons I've done & one of the few I'd do again - a nice low key, no frills marathon - a fraction of the price of, say, Manchester (and none of the issues with distance, baggage and mile signs!?). I'll be doing the Snowdonia half - mainly because it starts/finishes in my home town - if you want any info re the race let me know!

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 18/04/2016 at 09:09

Nice one TR - I like the way you call it the Llanelli marathon rather than what the organisers call it - Great Welsh Marathon my ar$e!!

NOT London!? The only time I've said never again re a race was in London - have done it twice and my quickest time is over 15 minutes slower than my best Snowdonia time! That said I've mellowed a wee bit re London and may do it again one day!!

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 11/04/2016 at 20:39

Hope you weren't badly affected by the baggage issue at Manchester brer. What a cracking way to spend your 50th! It will be my 1st trail marathon (and my 14th marathon in about 10 years!) - looking forward to it, particularly after getting back into my running - aided by my daily 6am runs with our Border Collie, which has sen me hit my highest weekly mileage for a long time - just started the 3rd week of my training for it! 

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 23/03/2016 at 08:23


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Loads of numbers will become available nearer the time as people realise they have not done the training or are injured, so I wouldn't worry about not getting a place (the organisers are very good re transfers - can easily do up to 3 weeks'ish before race day)


Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 15/03/2016 at 11:16

I saw a Facebook post before about a 33 week training plan for Snowdonia!! I haven't done much running - need to start up again, particularly given that it is less than 15 weeks till I pop my trail marathon cherry at the Trail Marathon Wales! Have gained what I expect will be a new training partner in the form a 3yo rescue Border Collie!

Snowdonia Marathon 2016

Posted: 28/02/2016 at 20:32

I bet - lovely weather for running today - unfortunately didn't get the chance - had to pick up my lad from school at 4.30am this morning (he had been on a school trip visiting the WW1 battlefields) - would have loved to have done a long run today.

Enjoy Wrexham - it will be very well organised - I was asked to do some pacing duties but other stuff on. Fingers crossed with the weather - the last race RunWales did was somewhat spoilt by the wind!

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