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Posted: 05/10/2015 at 14:43
My pacing method yesterday:

Press 'Start' on the Garmin as I set off.

The next time I looked at it was as I entered the track with 200m to go and I thought 'oooh, I'm going to run an 80'xx'.

I couldn't have gone any quicker, so I really didn't want to know how well/badly I was doing!

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Posted: 05/10/2015 at 09:38

Morning all,

Ryan - I agree with the others. A tremendous run that, and the sub-2'40 is a definite once you get a good group to work with. But you've got to be happy with the win! Winning a Mara, not many people can say that! And I remember when wtgy won that same race in 2010 - I don't think he'd mind me saying, but his time was a bit slower than he'd hoped. But like you, he had a long, lonely race with nobody to share the workload. So I really wouldn't get too hung up on the time. You WON man, superb! Oh and as an aside - I almost got wtgy DQd for giving him a bottle of Lucozade! Outside assistance. They did speak to us both about it, but decided to let the result stand. Pleased you didn't fall foul of that one too! Enjoy your r+r in Norfolk by the way, and well done again

joolska - looking good for Frankfurt! That was a stonking run yesterday, well done!!

Nice parkrunning from Dan - what a washout at the rugby though, so enjoy Abingdon!!

wardi - great stuff re the shin. You may as well give it a whirl next week then eh? I know you won't be fully fit, but you may as well go and enjoy it. Maybe wear the smoking jacket if there are any nice fillies to accompany?

padams - tasty session! And yes, shame you missed that race as you'd have been £200 better off this morning by the looks!


So, my weekend. I had a Half up in Carlisle as mentioned. Quite a lumpy course this one, with a few long climbs. It was a bit hillier than expected actually, so I was pleased to run 80'44 for 16th spot. Not sure how many other elderly gentlemen there were in front of me - maybe 3 I think, but I'll check once the full results are out (everybody listed as a Senior at present). Enjoyed the race though - the Road Relays aside, it was my first proper race since London!  

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Posted: 03/10/2015 at 06:52

Morning all,

Sorry for the lack of posting (or even lurking). I'm just mentally busy at the mo, and am only posting now cos I got up at 4:50am (unable to sleep) so have done a bit of work and a monster read back.

First up great stuff from the Berliners - I really enjoyed reading the various reports, and there were some outstanding performances. RJ, Lev, PP, SC2, Mr. B, muss and Jock - take a collective bow, fellas! Must admit I quite fancy Berlin next year, so will see how things go domestically re whether I can swing it.

Great to see a few old faces popping back in too - Al_P (congrats on the new addition!), selbs (good luck at Florence!), Dachs (nice win!) and Bains (a torrid few months for you fella, really hope you're over your issues now).

Good luck to Ryan this weekend. And yes I tried to follow the runners as best I could back in 2010, when wtgy won and another good friend ran his first sub-3. I can't really comment too much on the course as I only saw a few bits, but if it's a calmish day you should be fine.

And speaking of wtgy - good to see you coming back mate. You know what you're doing, so just keep at it!

Also very pleased to see wardi back running. Hopefully the Mara is still on for you. Be nice to do a race of that magnitude on your own patch so to speak.

Nice race skills from joolska, Al_P and ES too.

I know lots of others have posted too, but I've had 200+ posts to read and can't remember the rest!

Anyone else Marathoning tomorrow? I know Lord Didsbury is doing Chester, as is njord as a sub-3 pacer. Any others?

 I'm doing a Half tomorrow (which reminds me, good luck piscator!) - mine is in Carlisle, the grandly titled 'Great Cumbria Run'. I genuinely don't know how it will go. I took another 15 secs off my Keswick parkrun time last week (18'24), which indicates something like 84'00ish. But a friend who I beat by 2 secs at the Northern 6 Stage ran 17'15 for a 5k at Lancaster last Sat, so I dunno! Keswick parkrun isn't a quick course, but it's not THAT much slower. Anyway, as usual I will run 100% to feel and totally ignore the Garmin. I do like to look at the stats afterwards though!

Good luck to any others racing!


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Posted: 21/09/2015 at 11:05

Hello everyone,

Hope everybody had a nice weekend. Some cracking performances at the various relays by the looks - great results (and bling) from joolska, PP and Ms PP - hearty congrats all round! Sorry to hear TT's day wasn't so good.

TR - as has been explained, the Spring ones are the longer format really. 12 legs for the men compared to just 6 in the Autumn. So more clubs seem to muster together 6 pretty quick people, but the Spring version favours those with a bit more depth type thing. Really cracking days out though. I thoroughly enjoyed myself at the Northerns (see below). It's often a full day of a job though with travelling etc, so not sure you'd be able to do them even if you had any vague interest in them anyway. Oh and nicely done on getting back out there this week.

Gutted to hear of wardi's injury. You seemed to be really getting it together too. Bugger. No consolation at all, but I guess it's a matter of re-focusing on another (shorter) race in Nov/Dec possibly? Good luck anyway.

Sorry to hear of CC's woes too. 2015 has been a bit of a write off for you hasn't it?

A couple of cracking final long runs from Ryan (nice win!) and RJ2 - and yes, I always feel a little bit sad/empty etc when the long, hard stuff finishes and you start to taper properly. Funny, cos at times you can't wait for it all to finish, yet when it does you feel a bit empty!

Nice sharpener from Lev too - looking forward to how it all goes next week!

Anyway, as mentioned I was at the Northern Road Relays on Saturday. I was in our B team which I was more than happy with as I'm still getting my fitness back a bit. Funny cos 3 of a similar standard were vying for 2 spots, but being the new boy I went in the Bs. Anyway, as it turned out it didn't matter a jot - the 3 of us ran 23'37, 23'37 and 23'39, so evenly matched indeed! 23'37 for me on a mildly undulating 4.1 mile route. I ran pretty well actually. I'd hoped to be nearer 23'00 but I couldn't have gone any quicker, so job done really. Our A team qualified actually, but not sure we're bothering with the Nationals as it's the day before a big mountain/fell relay event that the club have been targeting for a while. Still, not to worry.

I really enjoyed it on Sat actually - caught up with njord (and Caz), Stuart Little and Race Jase, as well as a few other folk I only see once or twice a year. We were in Blackpool for our event too, so we had the obligatory Fish and Chips on the promenade before getting the mini-bus back. A top day!

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Posted: 17/09/2015 at 14:43
WTGY - nicely done on the lunchtime run! And yes, the Kirkstile is very close to us!! We're not licenced (yet), but when we are we're hoping to stock Cumbria Legendary Ales (Loweswater Gold is one of their brews, which you might have had before?) The brewery has expanded a bit and is now at Hawkshead, but they started off brewing at the Kirkstile and still produce some stuff from there now. And yes, now at Keswick AC. I know which campsite you mean too - I pretty much run past it 3 or 4 times a week!

And good call re PP's epic beard! I remember doing VLM in 2011 and some vagrant type hanging over the fence shouting 'Come on Lee'. At the time I thought 'who the f*ck was that?'. Then about a mile later I was proper belly laughing cos I realised it was PP!! A quality moment!!

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Posted: 17/09/2015 at 12:55
Charlie - the lay-by I used is the one right next to where you do your stuff! One end of the road is about 100 yards from the Portinscale turn, and the other end is where the Braithwaite turn is. So pretty much exactly where you did your stuff, just the other side of the road (one end of the lay-by goes to the field(s) where the Keswick Show is held, if you know that? And interestingly that stretch of the cycle path is marked every 50 metres from 0 to 800, so a couple of good options there.

And good luck on Saturday!

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Posted: 17/09/2015 at 11:22

So things continue to progress ok for me. I had another good week mileage-wise last week although I had to postpone my long run until Monday, as I spent about 7 hours on my hands and knees on Sunday ripping up the old floor in the shop. So Monday I got out for just over 20 miles around Ennerdale Water, and up to Black Sail YHA and back (Black Sail is the most remote hostel in the UK I think, and only accessible by foot). A lovely run but pretty tough in places. Still, it's all good for the fitness.

I then did a bit of speed stuff on Tue. I've not done any hard, short, fast reps for months and months, so I did a few 400s on a stretch of road (bit of a lay-by type thing) adjacent to the A66 near Keswick. 16 x 400 in just under 78 secs (average) off the same recovery. I was quite pleased with that, as I was hoping to be under 80 secs if poss, and all 16 reps were. I was proper eyeballs out though, but it was good to get the old legs turning over a bit quicker.

An easy 9 last night, and I'll do about 7 or 8 steady later on. Undecided whether to run tomorrow yet, but if I do it will be short with a few strides. Hoping to do ok at the 6 Stage on Sat. My first outing for the new club. I'm only in the B team and we won't qualify, but I'd just like to do ok really so fingers crossed.

Oh and I've entered the Great Cumbrian Run (i.e. - Carlisle Half) on 4th October, so we'll see how that goes. I was also hoping to do Derwentwater 10 on 1st Nov but I've no chance now re the shop's official 'opening weekend' stuff, but I have got a pass out for Brampton to Carlisle (10 miler) a couple of weeks later. That's a much quicker course actually, so it's become my target race I guess. It would be nice to get back under 60 mins for the 10 miler if poss, so that's the focus.

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Posted: 17/09/2015 at 11:14

Have now read back!

wtgy - joking aside it's great to see you posting in here again mate. I know we still keep in touch a bit on FB etc, but I often wondered if you'd ever get back running properly. You're a class runner mate - just be patient, do the right things and it will come back in time. Fingers crossed you get in via the ballot and we can have a few beers outside the Red Lion!

wardi - hope the shin is ok. Are you doing Vale of York Half on Sun? Full on race effort, or is it see how it feels re the shin issue? Good luck anyway.

muss - cracking set of 800s there, especially if you felt you still had a bit more in the tank. Bodes well mate, and you've maybe not lost as much fitness as you thought. Again, good luck!

SL - hahaha! Sounds awesome! 

RJ2 - nicely done at Bristol. A few opinions already I see. I'd be tempted to go with PP's advice - 6'45-6'50s and see how you feel. It's not a certainty obviously, but you've got a great chance!

Ryan S - nice session after Bristol, and good luck in the 10k

pisc - an equally good session. You seem to be in decent nick. Sorry to ask if you've already said, but have you got a target race? 

PP - superb fella. A lean, mean, obscene short wearing machine. Lovely.

TT - good stuff re the foot, and nice session. Fingers crossed all goes ok between now and Valencia


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Posted: 17/09/2015 at 09:43

Not read back (yet) but wtgy is back!! Nice to see you Roberto

Oh and I notice your new avatar pic is in landscape. I didn't realise you'd put that much timber on, son. Fair play fella, fair play.

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Posted: 14/09/2015 at 08:40

Dan - at least one other person read it! I was running with a friend who was visiting Keswick last weekend and who's doing Berlin. We were discussing pacing strategies and I mentioned that quote/advice - at which point he said 'yeah, I read something like that on Xempo's FB page before London'. So you've got at least 2 fans. Both from Rotherham too, and we can't even read


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