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The Middle Ground

Posted: 14/04/2014 at 22:51

What a brilliant day yesterday

There seemed to be MGers coming out of the woodwork at The Red Lion as evidenced by the pic above. And a good job too, we had 30 pints of free beer to tackle. By the end of the evening we had polished off 25 so there's room for improvement next year

TR, your question about the heat is very pertinent. It was certainly warm at the start and kept getting warmer but it still felt comfortable to run in. It was deceptive though because at the end most of us were pretty pink and I'm sure that I had a bit of mild sun stroke as we got to the pub.

As for the run itself, bearing in mind that Manchester was just 7 days earlier, it was without question the most enjoyable run around VLM.

When I had a brief chat with Phil at 4 miles I was thinking that maybe a low 2:50s was likely but the only aim, if there was one, was to try to run two sub 3s in 7 days, a feat I would have scoffed at until very recently.

By the finish a 2:57:52 on the back of the 2:51:52 at Manchester had been very straightforward, a nice flowing run. Surprised but very pleased.

Hannah nearly got a sub 3 with 3:00:45, 5 minutes quicker than Manchester.

DT - There is plenty to be happy about with that as a first marathon. You might be quite surprised if you did a survey of first marathon times of people on here and on Sub 3, I'm pretty sure that the average will be a good bit slower than 3:18.


TR - Well done on surving the best man's speech, a tough task indeed. Are you starting to chomp at the bit yet thinking about Ediburgh?



The Middle Ground

Posted: 11/04/2014 at 22:56

32947 is the number to see how a marathon on the back of a marathon pans out. It could be messy

The Middle Ground

Posted: 11/04/2014 at 09:56

Thanks TR! You might be right in your assessment but I'm not waiting 4hrs 30mins for the first pint. In fact just for good measure the first Red Lion pint of Guinness will be consumed in advance just to make sure

I haven't looked at what the race number is yet, I'll post it up later just in case anyone wants to watch some carnage unfolding


The Middle Ground

Posted: 07/04/2014 at 18:05

That's the one Dr D

Alehouse - Those crowds were pretty impressive all the way round so it was very easy not to spot people. As far as the course is concerned, I was surprised that it was billed as flatter than London but absolutely nothing wrong with it. The main plus point was there being no sharp corners anywhere so it was great for getting into a rhythm, switching off and letting a few miles tick by.

I'm sure it win't be too long before the next Manchester visit, probably Stretford I would imagine. Will let you know.


DT - Yep, running London as well. In fact Manchester was just a last minute addition but very glad we did do it now

We'll be in the Red Lion all afternoon, no rush


The Middle Ground

Posted: 07/04/2014 at 17:00

DT - There were certainly free drinks last year on presentation of your medal. If I could possibly suggest that their 'system' is slightly open to abuse you can have abloody good   afternoon for next to nowt in a pub full of hyped up runner people.

It is on Whitehall opposite The Treasury/Downing Street. Just follow naturally through the finish area and then towards the end if the meet and greet area go up the stairs by the Cabinet War Rooms and the Red Lion is directly in front of you through the arch.


Look forward to seeing you there with a smile of achievement on your face.


The Middle Ground

Posted: 07/04/2014 at 16:42

Excellent, Dr Dan, I'll read back then and see how your prep has been going. You do know that the Red Lion is compulsory for debriefing purposes, don't you?

The Middle Ground

Posted: 07/04/2014 at 16:34

A quick look in to see who is doing London on Sunday, I know TR is Edinburgh bound but who is doing the Blackheath-Red Lion run besides Phil as 3hr pacer?

Thanks for the comments re yesterday, I was hanging on a bit towards the end but since I was in territory that I haven't been in for 21 years a bit of hard graft to bring it home was fully expected.

After all that banging on the the sub 3 door without success for so long I will be over the moon if I could manage two in 7 days (making 5 sub 3s in 6 months). I think it's on but there is no way of really knowing until the later stages on Sunday.


WJH - Congratulations on the PB, didn't that last mile seem a long long way?


Bob - Great work. You'll probably smash that barrier on a regular basis now but there's nothing sweeter than going into new territory timewise.

The Middle Ground

Posted: 18/12/2013 at 09:39

Mr V - I'm sure your lower legs will thank you for keeping to solid underfoot conditions.

Alehouse - I don't blame you for keeping away from xc - if anything is going to take a battering it will be the achilles, which is the last thing you want to overstrain after your patient comeback.

Duck - I know what you mean about trying to run hard after work. Still pretty swift leg turnover stuff for you though.

As for the 'marathon training' flying in the face of logic you're kind of right. If someone suggested that to prepare for a marathon you should:

a) Cut out the long runs over 15 miles.

b) Don't do any training faster than MP + 2 mins.

c) Don't count weekly mileage.

d) Race regularly, but nothing too long.

e)  Race a marathon 2 weeks out from your target marathon.

f)  Race at least twice, but preferably 3 times, on the weekend before your target marathon.

.... you'd probably think they were off their trolley, right?


However, by coincidence, we have a friend over in Belfast who pretty much has the same approach. He coaches a fair few of the top NI athletes, including two sub 2:40 female athletes, one of whom improved dramatically when he stripped most of the speedwork out of her training. She has run 2:42 at London and 2:39 in Berlin this year as a result.

And he wasn't too bad himself at his peak with a pb of 2:18!





The Middle Ground

Posted: 16/12/2013 at 15:10

Ah the splits

They were indeed - 1:28:20 and 1:28:34

My 1:27:04, 1:27:05 was pure fluke. How could you ever engineer that?

The Middle Ground

Posted: 16/12/2013 at 14:59

Mr V - XC is a funny old game. The benefits are questionable (compared to others ways of achieving the same anaerobic development) but the risks are very real in terms of knackering up ankles and ligament etc. Unless you get genuine enjoyment out of it I wouldn't bother tbh.

I think Dr Dan has come to a similar conclusion after this weekend


Minni - That 'training' for the OH produced another marathon PB yesterday in Pisa, Italy where she finished 4th in 2:56:54. Not bad for the 4th marathon in 9 weeks.... 3:01, 2:57, 3:02 and 2:56. 

I've done one less in the same time but I have been surprised at just how robust the infrastructure feels coming off a series of 2:58:53, 2:54:17 and 2:54:09 yesterday in that same period.

Marathons are actually enjoyable now which is not something that I thought I'd catch myself saying not so long ago


Might have a bit of a break now though

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