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Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 23/01/2014 at 11:11

I may be having to defer my place too

After a mere 30 minute run my dodgy knee was playing up again today. Possibly not helped trying some new shoes that are the furthest away from minimalist I've tried for years. ITB seems more likely. If getting over that burns another week or so before I can get back on schedule it will be nearly 3 weeks lost in total recently. I will see how it goes.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 20/01/2014 at 11:05

The plan said 55 mins of basic intervals but I only managed 12 mins before I bailed. I felt ill with coldy like things going on, I had the residual toe/foot aches from yesterday and, having returned to my old shoes, seemed to be starting to pick up knee grief again today too.

Don't think I've had so many aches going on in a run before so I hope the partial rest will do the trick. I can use the time to shoe shop.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 19/01/2014 at 14:51

90 minutes said the plan. Lovely warm sunny day here in Brighton. It got me quite hot even though I was mostly trying to take it easy.

Knees behaveds so I'm happy about that.

I've been trying out some shoes (because they are super low weight which I thought would be good) with a 2mm toe drop for the last 3 runs & now I have a very achy big toe joint. I think I better go back to the zero drop ones while I work out what shoes to replace them with.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 17/01/2014 at 12:19

60 minutes "jog" said the plan so I did that. No knee pain while running.

About 10 minutes after getting home I went up some steps & could feel a slight dull ache in the "tibialis anterior" but this time not the tendon but in the muscle. It's a few hours later now & I can't feel any aches (phew, fingers crossed). I mostly think I'm getting over the knee thing but everytime a hint of ache pops up it makes me nervous !

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 16/01/2014 at 15:57

Hi Franz, I'll be 50 this year (nooooo!) but have done a lot less running that you I think. I normally keep it mostly flat at the moment as in the past I found hills kicked off knee trouble (I thought). Other than getting to/from bits of Brighton from up on top of the hill where I live I've mostly been picking off parts of the marathon route which is quite flat.

I guess that the going uphill part of doing hills means more work for less miles but the downhill might be the other way around & make for worse problems. I find that I can pick up crazy paces (for me) downhill & it's frequently at these times when injuries get you... but I guess I can try to wear a sensible hat and keep it slow downhill.

I have 60 minutes tomorrow and 90 on Sunday. If those lead to the same trouble (on the flatter routes) then I will try out your idea of more hills for less time. It's a good suggestion.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 16/01/2014 at 11:16

The Plan said 30 minutes and I did what the plan said for the first time in 12 days (except 1 rest day!). I (deliberately) ran slower than yesterday and the knee pain was there during the run but less than yesterday. Strangely it seems that the knee pain today shifted around more to the outside again, back to as if it's an ITB issue.

After my run & breakfast I did some exercises meant to help ITB issues and I either felt nothing or it made things worse than the running. It's not bad now, just a very mild dull ache now & I expect it will be gone in an hour. Confusing.

I wonder if the change of pace & what it (seemed to) affect says anything. Ave pace today 9:33m/m and ache site indicates ITB. Ave pace yesterday 8:44m/m and site is next muscle/tendon around towards the front ("tibialis anterior").

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 15/01/2014 at 13:48
Tillstar wrote (see)

Thanks guys, it seems okay when I run just quite painful when I am walking. Maybe I should just run everywhere lol. Kind of tempted to just keep training and hope it sorts itself out, Id rather not miss out on the training plan as started it late so I don't have any time to spare really.

I sometimes have knee pain if I walk & there's a small hill or two. This was an issue when running but I found that increasing my cadence (now average 200 spm) really helped (for running only, to the point where that specific pain does not happen now - with the rapid footsteps). Can't really work it into my walking tho', I think it would be mincing!

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 15/01/2014 at 11:42

Yesterday I started doing some exercises to try & help with my knee problem (which I thought was either runners knee or an ITB issue). I started doing leg raises and within 1 set my knee was off again. I decided to blow out yesterday.

No knee pain this morning. Decided to ignore any knee treatment. Got 25 mins in. V mild knee pain towards the end. More knee pain 5 mins after stopping. Knee pain gone about an hour after.

While I had more knee pain I tried again to work out where it was. I think my ID of the pain site was out before. It's more the lower/outer/front which on a diagram looks like the top of the "tibialis anterior" muscle here:


So far it looks like one stretch I can do is to put the bad leg behind with the foot on the side pointing in. Then gently lower on my good leg to stretch the offending muscle.

Wish I knew how to help other peeps with these things as I know it's a 'mare. I'll let you know if my plan works for my issue.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 13/01/2014 at 14:51

I agree that see a physio would be good but as I'm "between contracts" (not working) at the moment, the private ones are too much. The chance of seeing an NHS one in time (for the marathon) are zero from past experience.

I've looked up exercises for both suggestions and have now done one session for both legs (to keep things even) and for both opinions (runners knee & ITB). It was interesting trying them & as some were a bit tricky I'm sure they won't do any harm.

No residual knee pain before or after now so it's re-assuring that the earlier run has done no apparent harm (fingers X'd). Perhaps I'll do that 1/2 marathon now, that I missed yesterday, see you later... OK, sensible hat on. I'll see if I come across any more exercises to try & then see what tomorrow & beyond brings for easing back in to the running.

I'm not getting much change out of 1.5 hours of non-running exercises done for running now that I've added those in too. I may need to cull some soon... or there won't be time left to run.

Thank you for the suggestions folks.

Brighton Marathon 2014

Posted: 13/01/2014 at 11:25
Wenty wrote (see)

Piggyback - what wrong with the knee?

It's hard to pin point but it's on the outside (right knee) and during running it feels more like it's something around the middle (outside) perhaps even a little forward of the middle. But, once I stop running & cool off it seems to ache more further back.

I have continued to rest it until today, (was meant to do half marathon distance yesterday ).

I tried a test run again today of roughly 0.5 miles and could feel it was not 100% cured with a little ache towards the end of the run and a tiny bit post run so now I'm not certain how to proceed.

  • I could continue with The Plan which would have me go out & do another ~20 minutes today. I think that the ache from my exploratory run this morning means that would be silly.
  • If I rest it for much longer I will presumably fall off the rails of The Plan and probably make it tricky to complete the marathon. I guess that I just have to be prepared to blow it out if necessary but crikey it's going to be galling to miss yet another one.

I think my best bet is probably to blow out another few days & try again then with some back to basics and another test run. I may then be able to sneak back up to full duration runs over a number of days or a perhaps a week.

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