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Posted: Yesterday at 18:21

Nessie

 

 spam, can be removed without deleting your thread....

Outlaw 2015

Posted: Yesterday at 18:14

good news Durham biker...........

 

9iron   you can#t put decadave on the list ... he is one of them... not one of us

Can you train for a marathon on two runs a week

Posted: Yesterday at 17:59

surely using % would be better.....because if steve way did 2 runs a week for 3:09 and I did  6 hours for  my 2 runs............then as individuals we wouldn't be able to gain the same minutes...

Ched Evans

Posted: Yesterday at 17:37

I was waiting for you to join the discussion 

Ched Evans

Posted: Yesterday at 15:31

I was putting it as I would feel it. .....if it happened to me...

I had not realised this could be misconstrued and so retract the statement...

Planning

Posted: Yesterday at 15:28

Podds.....I didn't have an impression you were big.....but injury can change us very quickly....

 

looks like you already have the upperhand on controlling it to a racing weight...

....so many times I have just told myself that the high  training will reduce my weight... and I have ended up racing at a weight I wasn't comfortable with....

 I am on day 6 of my own tackle the excess campaign ready for next year.... 

Ched Evans

Posted: Yesterday at 15:21

I said .. it looks like the jury believed in the first but not the second......

on these cases it one persons word against another.........there is always an element of who is believed..

 

 or that one side had better lawyers than the other.

 If i was the girl.then I'm sure i would be left thinking why they believed me on one and not the other .....why couldn't they believe my side of the argument enough to put him in jail...... I would be left felt left down.........as it seems she was not in any fit state to consent...

 

 there are many many reasons why women will not report rape..and the coverage this case has had will do nothing to help that cause at all......

 and yes...I still believe that for every case in court where a man gets off.there will be a woman thinking why did they not believe me.,... they will not be thinking... why did the system of legal proof of a and b not have enough proof on my side.....

 

Are ultra runners fast or plodders?

Posted: Yesterday at 15:07

mine moan going up and down stairs.......maybe you just develop a better pain threshold.or learn to cope with it... ...

 

Ched Evans

Posted: Yesterday at 14:59
Maxpower North West wrote (see)
Maxpower North West wrote (see)

The more I read this comment from seren the more disturbed i become by it:

i think the problem with the case is that the girl accused both of rape........and by the verdicts.the jury believed she was lying in the first case but telling the truth in the second.......which doesn't make sense...

 

The law is not as black and white as the public like to think. If Ched Evans had walked free the jury would NOT have been calling the girl a liar or categorically saying she had not been raped. They would have been saying based on the limited evidence it was not possible to prove her case. This is seems hard for some to grasp but is very important. I am sure that seren means well but it is the type of comment she made that makes it difficult for women to come forward.

I know at times on here I can be a prick but if you are going to comment on a rape case have the decency to go read about it and understand the facts involved.

 

From what I have read on this more than 80% of rapes in this country go unreported. The biggest reason is that the victims are scared of not being believed and having the stigma of being branded a liar.

To convict someone of rape the prosecution and not the victim, who after all is only acting as witness, must prove to the jury beyond reasonable doubt that the accused is guilty. This can be difficult based on the witness account only and without other evidence at times they will be acquitted. However, this does not make the women a liar at all and in fact less than 1% of rape cases result from false accusation.

In a high profile cases like this one and when commenting about it on public boards or TV if you are Judy F, I really do think it is important not to use terms that could prevent other women coming forward.

 

 

 

 fair point Max.... But I think when the country as a whole discuss it .. then the majority will not have gone and read the indepth reports of the trial...and not some edited reporting from the tabloids etc...

so from a half informed point of view I am reading everything on this thread as I have not in my mind found understanding  about the whole event....all I can do is trust the jurys decsison and so he should have gone to jail.

 

 so it isn't about believing or not.its about the probability of things....I still do find it hard to believe that they were either not both guilty or both innocent...I have heard your debates and can understand them on a legal kind of way..... 

bit by an instinctive way i feel that its hard to distinguish between them if the girls state of mind didn't change....Maybe the recordings talked about showed something different.. I don't know......the first guy was obviously sober enough to do the action and  to contact his friends.i can assume he was sober enough to tell how drunk she was...

how do they catergorise consent....if she was awake and kissing the person would that indicate consent.....

 

 its good to debate so that males and females realise they have to be responsible for their actions...

 

 from the looks of it there were a lot of scumbags out that night 

Ched Evans

Posted: Yesterday at 14:48
mark 47 wrote (see)

Its ok phil, I was responding to nayans. Im a slow typist and by time it went through 2 went before hand.

I agree about these players and what a lot of them stand for, That's why I cannot stand the game but with kids its there favourite and most young boys dream of growing up to be footballers. They don't care about politics or are aware as much as us about what most of them get up to but in this case its different. 

Nayan its not always about what you should tell your children sometimes action speaks louder than words.I would just feel really uncomfortable sitting next to my sons and cheering him on.

 

mark 47 wrote (see)

Its ok phil, I was responding to nayans. Im a slow typist and by time it went through 2 went before hand.

I agree about these players and what a lot of them stand for, That's why I cannot stand the game but with kids its there favourite and most young boys dream of growing up to be footballers. They don't care about politics or are aware as much as us about what most of them get up to but in this case its different. 

Nayan its not always about what you should tell your children sometimes action speaks louder than words.I would just feel really uncomfortable sitting next to my sons and cheering him on.

 

 

mark 47 wrote (see)

seren mos

....and if you think any person on a pitch or in a political party or in a film is a big piece of shit.you should explain it to your children...

I should not explain this to my children seren. I cannot control how the world is or what is put in front of there faces ( most of the time ) But I can control what I do and don't do to encourage it.



 

so then the answer is quite easy... as a parent you do not take them to watch the football games if the club has anyone on the pitch who you think goes againgst your beliefs..

 you vote with your feet and show your kids by example..

 

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