Stevie G

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Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Today at 19:38

Yep Sam, something was a bit odd about that relay, but then they don't overly measure it with precision like other races.

Otherwise your result then would have had you about 20seconds a mile quicker than todays, over double the distance!

what happened to that thread with kk and seren?

Posted: Today at 14:27

It's a simple situation. Anyone who wants to converse with her can do it on that fb group . Simple.

I think she honestly can't see why she's been banned. But banned people often think like that..

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Today at 13:26
RicF wrote (see)

You seem to forget how long I've been at this game SG.

I don't go to a physio when something goes wrong for the simple reason there is no magic wand they can wave to make the problem go away any faster than it can.

Where does the physio learn from? how do they learn? the information is just sitting there to be picked up. I picked it up. Nothing to it. Apart from studying the subject for 25 years, which I have. 

There are runners who are like racing car drivers, they are very good drivers buts thats all. I'm an ok driver too, but I also designed and built the bloody car.

Maybe we should all come to you Ric, as you're basically saying you're as much of an expert as any physio

Can I book some time in?


Samir, I think we have our answer then son. If you didn't see any gates, and didn't do any offroad, then you took a quicker shortcut route
Reminds me of a bootleg win I had in a 4.7mile (!) race once. There was also a 2.3 (!) mile fun run on.
I'd won the longer race, and then about 20mins later a guy heard my winning time, and reckoned he'd done it quicker, so must have won.

Except, he hadn't actually won the shorter race, hadn't at any stage led the longer race, and got his time mixed up anyway. Sheer farce.


Bus, just really the sitting cramped doing much harm, just wasn't really fuelled up, and just didn't fancy another drive and going flat out, miles from home etc. All seemed a bit pointless. Instead I had a nice 13miler, 6.55ish. Tight now, but I'm hoping Ric can fix me

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Yesterday at 21:24

Have aborted plans for a low key turnout tomorrow. Having sat on a coach for 5 1/2hours today, I fancy a more calm 12mile pootle round this area instead!

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: Yesterday at 20:25

Obviously Ric, because you only go to a physio when something goes wrong.

You can't learn it from books, as they're not your specific situation. The physio from their years of training and from stepping back and analysing you up close, finds the weaknesses that you cannot.

Once we've had the exact niggle a second time we know what to do.

When you get it the first time it's quite worrying and uncertain. The physio is where you learn this from.

If your logic was correct, the best runners in the world wouldn't need physios, as they could "learn" it for themselves.

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 19/09/2014 at 17:55

TT, couple of Oesteo appointments, but my overriding feeling with these type of people is that it'll take 100s of appointments for what can only be a minor thing, if i can still do such big mileage!

I can't be sitting there having some geezer telling me i'm "very tight" (yes I'd noticed mate, that's why im here), doing a back click, and waggling legs around, all for £32 a short appointment.

Couple of NHS physio appointments too. One gave me a magnificent deep hamstring stretch that massively helped my motion, and one basically said, what you're doing is right, but how about taking up another sport as well, and watch out for Arthritis in 20 years!

So vaguely, it's following the Moraghan outline, but currently outside of his coaching as I'm not confident i'd stand up to it, and every so often testing the intensity, MP runs, parkrun, relay, and this week some kind of race, but with no kind of direct contrast to past (borderline) glories

Overdone it?

Posted: 19/09/2014 at 16:40
Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)

Best I can offer you is a 5k PB for Christmas if I travel to a flat one!

You've another round of pbs in you, but obviously after a good block of training down the line sometime.

As I know from my last few months,sometimes you need to forget races, and  be in a different state, rehab/enjoyment etc.

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 19/09/2014 at 16:37
TippTop wrote (see)


SG - what injury have you had that has taken so long to come back from?

One of those super frustrating tightness niggles, that I can only imagine came from overdoing ab exercises months back. Could always run through it, and a good 50+ miles a week, but cut out everything fast.
Now I'm back to re-adding some faster bits, but every day the hamstrings are still tight and need a lot of stretching to unlock.

Not sure it'll ever go to be fair, but I'll keep the faith!

Has led to one of those re-evaluating things times!


good luck to all for any races/relays this weekend. Might turn out somewhere myself.

Overdone it?

Posted: 19/09/2014 at 15:43

Skinny, the reward is/was seeing you and Lit hitting pbs. I think if it even vaguely ever got to a pay situation (with others, not with you two), i'd want to link it to the person's pbs, as that way everyone wins.

DT19 ,out of interest how have your pbs moved over the coaching? How long has the coaching gone on, and what mileage are you on?
Obviously not a 100% fail safe way of measuring anything, as to get me to pbs for example now would take a lot more work than 5 years ago, people have injury spells etc

Overdone it?

Posted: 19/09/2014 at 12:38

interesting to read that DT. is it generally a whole month up front each time? Sounds quite a long period that doesn't account for any unforeseen changes.

I do Lit's weekly, but then our arrangement is more a pally based one, rather than a commercial arrangement with a stranger. But the weekly basis obviously allows maximum flexibility, and a frequent round up summary about where we are.

Also, these commercial distance coaches might have a massive stack of people, so can't have the time to look at it every week individually?

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