Stevie G

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What happened to the thread

Posted: Yesterday at 19:18

even you Dave? I've heard a whisper that you're a ....fatty

What happened to the thread

Posted: Yesterday at 19:07

to set a new login up, you have to set up a a new email address right? That's a bit of a hassle to do once.

But repeatedly?

Journey to a sub 17 minute 5k

Posted: 20/10/2014 at 11:32

Tony, how are the marathons fitting into the sub 17 5k plan? extra mileage to naturally bring the pace down overall, or a change of emphasis for a while?


pdavey33 wrote (see)

currently at 17:25 but sub 17 still feels a long way away.

last track session was 17x400 in around 73-75 secs, with 60secs rest.


Stevie G wrote (see)
pdavey33 wrote (see)

currently at 17:25 but sub 17 still feels a long way away.

last track session was 17x400 in around 73-75 secs, with 60secs rest.


Just browsing, but wow, what a session?!

Just to put some context on this...I've done a 34.30 10k, a 16.53 5k (which by rights should be quicker), and on Friday I did 8x400 in average 73.5s.

Now that's my 3k pace. 2miles volume of a 1.8mile ish distance.

If you can do over 4miles of reps at average 4.58 pace  (1.14x4 +2sec for the 9metres) , I'd say you should be looking at more sub 16 pace than sub 17 pace!

I've only ever seen 16x400 (17 is an odd number?!) done as a 10k pace job before in fairness, was it a coach put on session, or did you just trial it freestyle.


ps as you all were.

I'm also disappointed this chap PDavey never came back. I was massively interested in what sounded like a colossal reps session, well above sub 17 pace!

Overdone it?

Posted: 20/10/2014 at 06:43
Set up base camp? 20mins? What?

Just as well no disabled people were around eh?

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 19/10/2014 at 20:35

just a quick one, great work from the racers, long runner, tempoers etc today. In awe of your paces, cripes!

I'm gonna cut down on posting my guff for a bit, a little as the next 2 weeks sees me darting all over the country, and trying to fit in a foolish amount of different things,  but also due to it being the same old pony. However, i'll be keeping an eye out every so often for some inspirational training and paces as always.

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 18/10/2014 at 19:09

Things change Dachs. I remember being not far off both him and Tom S at a 10k a few years back.

Now look at them, both in the 1.11s for a half I think, and no sign they're slowing down!

However, you've got every chance of breaking down to that and equalising it out.

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 18/10/2014 at 19:05

I saw it Ric...


I saw it.

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 18/10/2014 at 13:17
Do you not find you're working too hard by 'b racing' as opposed to tempos though Phil ? Or do you weigh up the perceived effort as equal, due to us all knowing that paces in a race are easier than in training solo?
For me mp are medium hard, whereas even a b race is as hard as i can on the day

Overdone it?

Posted: 17/10/2014 at 22:08

Hi Mr Ford.

That sounds painful and quite a new one on me.

Must have been quite an awkward slip to sprain yourself like that?!

Moraghan Training - Stevie G

Posted: 17/10/2014 at 22:00

I can see where you're coming from Ric, and I've always picked up a general undercurrent from you that you don't like the way I train or go about things. I can see that people take their time to offer tips, and feel affronted by a perceived ignoring of them.

However, when you take a coach on, from a position of admittedly knowing jack sh!t, you follow their advice to the letter. And doing that saw me go from thinking I was finished improvement wise in 2010, to reaching another gear or 2 with many a pb.

Also, you need to remember this thread was not set up like the Middle Ground thread, a "collaboration for improvement". It was specifically set up as a coaching thread, one that many early threadsters gained a lot out of.

The group we have now are a bit different, but definitely in the early years, many a lurker took tips from the schedules. I know this as many PMd me!

Armed with the 4 years of coaching that Moraghan provided generously for me, I now know what makes me feel fit, so have a better understanding of what it takes. Also shown through coaching Lit.

I'm always interested to see how others train, but they are individual. I can't train like Dean does, such intensity would ruin me, I've taken knocks the last 2 summers with the higher intensity stuff. Similarly, I love a tempo, but Dachs does epic level tempos. And I'm not talking in just paces, I wouldn't be able to do them respective to my own paces. Similarly with Johnas' epic Thresholds and so on.

To pb now, I know I need a good block of dedicated training, but also know that pb versus breakdown can be a very fine line.
You also need to factor in I like to actually run a good 60+ miles anyway, it's not just about pbs.
I think I'd soon get sick of say 25miles a week, 2x intense reps sessions. If you're not enjoying it you won't stick with it.

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