The Jimbob

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Paris Marathon 2016

Posted: 21/06/2015 at 18:00
Yes Nodster from scratch really although i try to wing it to a point. Will try to increase for a few weeks then cut back a week as the peeps on here have mentioned. Then build again. I'm looking to get some 20 mile runs on the board before the Dam. 4 or 5, plus 6 track sessions with the club coach and some track races. Maybe 2 or 3 track races (which I treat as training). Plus a couple of road races. There is enough quality there, throw in some mid distance, the rest will be mainly recovery running just boosting the mileage and strengthening the legs. It's making me tired just thinking about it.....

Paris Marathon 2016

Posted: 21/06/2015 at 13:51
Yes Nodster, more miles less speed (apart from speed session) worked for me and I made some good gains this spring off the back of that. TBH I'm not really into doing too much "race pace". I might blast the last few miles of a progressive 10 mile. I did a 20 mile race last year and ran the last 15 miles at marathon pace. My legs were trashed. I won't be doing that again. The most i will do is 16 miles (5 easy,8 m.p, 3 easy) about 6-7 weeks out. For me the most important thing in the marathon is having good endurance and minimal fatigue. I'll save my race pace for races. Of course my priority is the marathon .... my gains in the shorter races come from the marathon training and my 5k and 10k times are slower that what I should get. If I trained specifically for shorter races I could probably do myself better justice at those distances.

Over 16 miles with the club today, didn't hang about! Longest I've done since the marathon.

Paris Marathon 2016

Posted: 20/06/2015 at 21:27
Hi Nodster, I did that for a while and managed to improve a fair bit. I got to the point where I wasn't really improving so changed it up for more easy paced miles including commute doubles. More long runs. I'd love to do 3 or 4 quality sessions a week but the legs don't want to play so I'm more like 10 a month. My recent campaign has yielded improvement at all distances but I'm suprised as I'm not really averaging any different in terms of pace in training than I was 18 months ago apart from my speed drills which are done with the club. Running those in the group makes you work harder Deffo.

Different strokes for different folks, even my club mates who I share similar PBs with seen to be able to do race pace much more in training where as I just don't go there. It's like I save another gear just for a race. And I've realised too many races really knackers me. I have to fit the training in around family life so commute doubles work. I can ramp up the mileage without having too much impact on the home life. Feel free to give me a prod if you want any more chatter about my training ideas.

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 19/06/2015 at 21:20
Heroine in a half-shell wrote (see)

Kenno - just getting round should be the main aim for absolutely everyone, irrespective of how many marathons they've done, sometimes 26.2 just isn't as simple as all that! I run a 1:35 half and have a 3:26 marathon PB, so that's an extra 16 mins on top of just a straight doubling of the half time, but I do wonder whether there might be a certain amount of practice that goes in to running marathons and getting the pacing right in the latter stages. Equally you've done triathlons etc so you know what endurance events are like. I think that you could go sub-4 Kenno, it'd be worth deciding that you want to run 9m/miles from the offset rather than going out too fast and fading though, because that hurts like hell I'm afraid!!

Evening HIAHS et al. Glad to hear you are testing the knee. Just ease back in. You'll be up to 50 miles a week in no time. Talking of about converting half times to full. There's no strict rules, there's averages you get on calculators like Macmillan which is more like x 2 plus 8 mins. My conversion in 2013 was +17 mins in Spring improving to +15 in the Autumn. In 2014 I managed +14 and again I'm at +14 in 2015. I think it does take practice to execute a good marathon. The most successful marathons I've had is where I kept the pace even despite feeling like I had more energy. This turned out to be a great tactic as it gave me a few dregs of energy late on to hold my pace and pour past the death marchers. Others try to get far down the road and hang on .... I'm not really into hanging on, I prefer to dictate the run (as much as I can). But it's each to their own. Once you get back onto regular training, do your fast sessions and your Long runs, tempos and MLR and see how you get on with your Autumn half. Then we could talk about a good goal pace. I think you running for the 3.25 in Paris off your 1.35 half was spot on, but it looked like you were in front of that for a while, and then you fell behind it late on, albeit a minute, but I wonder if you had held back a little, you might of got the 3.25. In Paris 2013 I targeted 3.25 of 1.33 and got 3.23 so I probably could have been bolder, but I was over the moon with how it went, so I'll take that conversion. I don't think I'll ever convert close to Macmillan formula as I probably won't really push myself right to the edge (of that pace where it's just too fast to maintain for 26 miles)

How's everyone's training going? I might hit 50 miles this week if the body permits

Boston Marathon 2015

Posted: 18/06/2015 at 21:55

I opted not to take the wife. I faffed her and the kids to Paris when I did the marathon, it wasn't enjoyable for her. I say go on your tod or with a running pal from your club. Meet up with other runners there. Do the 5k, soak it up at the expo which is great. It's the holy grail for a lot of runners and that adds extra spice to the atmosphere.

I had a very enjoyable Boston experience from the beginning to the end. I had a pal fly in from Atlanta to keep me company and support. He had just PB'd Tokyo and was getting ready for Comrades so he was bang into all the running stuff - we went to baseball on Friday, ran the 5k on Saturday and on the Sunday he did a 30 mile training run while I sat around with some American runners, then had a relaxing afternoon in the hotel pool & spa before a Pizza dinner. I felt completely relaxed and slept very well the night before, which is always tough, as you are usually so pumped up with adrenaline before a marathon.

Aleik one more thing about the jet lag, I advise not to bother trying to get on Boston time as you have to get up very early on race day. I got that advice from someone here and it worked out well for me. I did a 4 day (3 night) trip - arrived Friday lunchtime, Friday was a long day and by 10pm I had to leave the baseball as I was shattered. I flew home on the Monday night and didn't sleep on the plane as my legs were hurting a lot and I was a little "baked" from the drinking so I was wrecked on the Tuesday morning when I got home. It was worth it tho'. I took Wednesday off work and went and did the London expo. Met Paula (result!)

Paris Marathon 2016

Posted: 15/06/2015 at 14:43

Andy - BOOM! nailed it. Knock off another minute or two for course difficulty. You're closer to 3 hours than 4 now, so not unreasonable to target the GFA. Get the fatigue of this race out of our legs and then go and capitalise on the endurance that is still in your legs - you'll probably bosh out a new 10k PB in a month or so.

TD - your finish at 2012 Paris is fantastic moment. Very inspiring. The marathon career may be over but there is loads out there for a determined lad like yourself to take on!  I feel a medal framing opportunity coming on for you ..... get all the medals in a nice frame with plaques and photos. You have lots of experience and advice you can pass on. Get signed up for one of those mass 100 mile bike races to get the blood pumping again. Also, you could go out and accessorize some fancy bike gear

Boston Marathon 2015

Posted: 14/06/2015 at 16:17
It's a flat city and also windy. I'd like to think I could have a decent run over there.

I'm also doing short races at the moment but I just piggy back them onto my marathon training. I seem to get some PBs off my shorter runs when I do a full marathon campaign. This year have set new PBs at half, 10k and 5000 track. Have a couple more shorter races before I switch focus to more blimmin marathon training ..... (sigh)

The guy in our club won the Amsterdam Half last year.

Paris Marathon 2016

Posted: 13/06/2015 at 22:06
Be Epic Andy and Nodster!. Above all, enjoy every minute of it and you'll be triumphant.

Boston Marathon 2015

Posted: 13/06/2015 at 17:17

its a cool city and a great atmosphere on race weekend. I had baseball tickets, good seats, they went on sale on New Years day and I got in nice and early.

£916 return for two doesn't sound too bad. I paid 640 for one return flight, It didn't drop in price and rose slightly so I was happy with that. Steep but suited my 4 day mini-break. You could maybe have one more lunge at the BQ before registration opens to try to get it below 5 mins although you should be fine with what you have. I improved it another 3 minutes after I secured my place and it helped bump me up a couple of corrals. Good luck with the training.

Boston Marathon 2015

Posted: 13/06/2015 at 15:14
Aleik I booked my flights around end of May last year for this year's Boston. I had a 9m23s BQ and I was slightly nervous but with that much breathing space I took the chance. I was after a particular BA flight time there and back.

4m38s will surely get you into the race, but booking up before you have the confirmation email will leave you biting your nails for the couple of weeks before you get the news. If you can afford to take the risk then go for it. Might be worth signing up for London with your GFA as a backup race. It's a 36 quid insurance policy. If you don't get into Boston then at least you have a good race to fall back on - you lose the 600 quid on the flight which is nasty, but I just lost 350 quid on Sunday to the dinorod guys as we've been using supposedly biodegradable toilet wipes for the last two years for the kids and it caused a major drainage issue. My point is you take a calculated risk and chances are it will be fine but it could back fire. If you do get in to Bosti then you could do the double, painful, crazy, but kind of cool. Or you can defer London or drop out half way.

If you do book the flight you should book some accommodation as well. You can get hostels near the finish with free cancellation on, worth having one of those locked in. I ended up going into a hotel with a pal and cancelled the hostel about a week before.
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