The Jimbob

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Sub 3

Posted: 22/10/2015 at 12:55

Hello Sub3'ers. Long time no speak. I need to have a proper catchup. Dropping in to wish the Frankfurters the best of luck. Jools, hope you have got rid of lurgy by race day as you've had a good block of training and be a shame not to 'ave a go on Sunday. I'll have a catchup and be back on this thread more during my winter training.

talking of casual marathons I was a little casual in the first half of Amsterdam the other day. Perhaps overcautious, as I was plodding along at 3 hour pace with a couple of club mates, trying to stay relaxed. Got boxed in a couple of times and I lacked urgency in getting back on pace. Was running on feel more than clock watching, and when I saw over 1.31 for the first half, my reaction was "oh" .... I've had pretty good training and felt strong so pushed to try to reel the sub3 in .... it wasn't a bad attempt, some erratic fast miles late on. I tried to drain every last bit of banked energy I had, but the damage was done and I got a 3.00.31 (1.31.19 / 1.29.12). I wasn't gunning for PB, just looking to "run well" and maybe scalp the 3 as a good target. Training not been quite as thorough as when I did the 2.58.

So another couple of lessons learnt. Like Dan says "you can't blag a sub3" - you have to commit to it from the beginning to the end. Also, something I read on here the other day - if you want to be in the lottery you have to buy a ticket. I wasn't in the lottery until 13 miles - I forgot to buy my ticket! Where to find the right balance of bold and caution? The marathon journey continues ......

Believe it or not I'm actually happy that I managed to run so strong through the second half and had such good fun out on course, there was no disappointment for not snagging another sub3. This wasn't really a goal race, Tokyo is that for me in Feb. The weekend was more a jolly up, and there was plenty of Jolly after and into the night.

Happy 100th Dan! are you getting a 100 club vest?

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 21/10/2015 at 07:12
I've heard Barca can be warm but it's a fast one. I know a few runners who have their PB from there

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 20/10/2015 at 12:52
There is also 2012 and 2013 vids

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 19/10/2015 at 22:50

yep I called them up and asked them straight, I was in the same boat a couple of years back, running the time when I wasn't old enough yet but was old enough on race day type thing.  It's good to stay grounded but lets assume they won't change the qualifying standards. They shouldn't but you can never be 100% sure. So you can get your application in for that in June. Yes you have the London GFA and that is your reward after 5 years - nice One! Once you get over the fatigue, you can put the London thing on the back burner and look at lowering the time by a couple of minutes, then you can decide to do London, Boston (or Both) - for me I had to do Boston - its the holy grail for some, but there were loads of pals doing London also so I did that 6 days after and it hurt (I ran London harder than I should have).

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 19/10/2015 at 22:37

Age on race day mate !

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 19/10/2015 at 22:12

Kenno a 4.02 debut in the marathon is better than most. Don't be downhearted, I always will take only positives out of every race, even a negative moment can be a valuable lesson. You ran the distance, you scored a great debut result. You trained, you pushed through the pain barrier, you put a marker down. Take a few weeks rest (maybe have a couple of short mellow jogs to turn the legs over) then get out there and do some regular training to lay the foundation on which to build the Paris plan. We'll all be there mate!

Jimbo - you can take it forward and if you have the desire to, you will find a way to get the training in. I've moved my PBs on over the last few years in "small steps", but I've been able to go from one campaign to another. Spring - Autumn - Spring etc yes I feel bloody knackered, but having done this, I've been able to increase my mileage gradually, and the higher mileage has given me my best marathons. Chip Chip away, and don't get too greedy and pace a sensible marathon and that will bring more success. You just did that so well and it brought your best ever run, (not just on finish time) so do it again for Brighton. Target a 3.08 / 3.09. It's 4-5 more minutes to improve, achievable in one campaign with the right training, taper and race execution but not putting you under too much strain or pressure. You have to be careful, the marathon training will help you take chunks off your shorter races. Then you'll put those PBs into calculators and they will tell you , you are capable of a very fast marathon. (see the Macmillan calculator e.g) - in reality the calculators are a guide, but take your time, enjoy your journey to the sub3, you don't have to do it straight away! There's Boston Qualifying, BTW Congratulations on running your London 2017 GFA place.  

aah cheers for saying Jokeyboy. Yes I've had some good races this year especially the halves and marathons. I try to enjoy myself.  Actually I've just uploaded the data from the watch, and it appears I was enjoying myself a bit too much early on, as I didn't really worry too much about the mile times for the first half. By my standards I was a bit blasé with it all and when the second half came I put some urgency and focus into with some weird freak fast miles, like mile 20 in 6.21 and the last half mile at about 5.50. For me it's not a PB attempt every time now. I've  marathon in 6 weeks and I'm not going for a PB there. I'll target one of my spring marathons as a goal race and have a good time trial during training and set a realistic goal based on fitness nearer the time.

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 19/10/2015 at 07:37
Well done PompeyMatt, big improvement

Miss Laure - well toughed out

AA ..... well done! sometimes you just have to get to the finish, you know this cause you've ran millions of marathons.

Congrats Kenno on the debut. See you in Paris if not before.

Well done also to Liam, Beetle and Jimbo.

Jimbo if I assumed that the 76 in you screen name indicates the year of your birth then that excellent race execution has not only earned you a cracking pb, but also a Boston 2017 qualifying time! Applications next September. You should try, it's awesome. I do think you will need to take a couple more minutes out of that PB to give yourself a better chance of getting in. The BQ doesn't guarantee you entry, the faster in your category the better. 3 minute under 3.15 would do it although 5.01 under 3.15 would be more preferable and less nerve racking for you in the application process.

Talking of good race execution I had a good one. No PB this time but I didn't really feel I was in that shape so didn't want to get greedy. Overcooking the pacing can wreck your race so I went out conservatively at 1.31.19, feeling like I had bags of energy, so floored it for the rest of the race. I tried to reel the sub3 in but it's difficult to do that from over 1.31 ..... I did 1.29.12 coming back so over 2 mins negative split for 3.00.31 - very pleased to have a race like that. I ran hard through the most difficult sections overtaking people all the time and finished very strong.i bantered on course and wore a big smile all the way. For a positive race experience it was a perfect day. If I'd been a little bolder I could have maybe tried to pace the first half a minute quicker and the second half slightly more relaxed and maybe skimmed under 3. I've had a good sub3 this year and I was in better shape then with better training. Trying to replicate that time here would have been risky and I would have probably failed. So I paced sensibly and pushed on and it's very satisfying to run like that. Got completely sozzled last night and struggling now on so many levels!

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 17/10/2015 at 22:15
Sleep tight everyone .....

Post race drinks ......

O'Donnells Irish Pub
Ferdinand Bolstraat 5
1072 LA Amsterdam

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 16/10/2015 at 23:07

ahh the dreaded cobbles , we have a few of them in Paris, nothing to write home about, but if you are death marching they feel worse. You wanna be taking them with good form / cadence then it's not so bad, but that's a bit of a lucky dip, cause no one knows how they'll feel on the day at 22-23 miles, till you actually get there.

I'm off to - early flight n all that. Loads of us are going drinking / eating on Sunday after the race, i'll post up the pub info tomorrow when I have it.

Night All, safe travels (whoevers not already there)

Amsterdam 2015

Posted: 16/10/2015 at 12:15
Always Aching wrote (see)

Jimbob - how many marathons have you done???? I've got Tokyo and Chicago to tick off but they don't seem to attract me!! Just pack your trainers for Florence and tell her you're popping out for a morning run

I don't leave home without them. Amstercarnage will be my 10th.

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