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HADD Training Method

Posted: 25/01/2015 at 21:55

Hi Roy!.

So toe is improving but still not quite pain free enough to test in on a run. Got 3 elliptical sessions in this week. 2 easier sessions of 90 minutes each and today did a subLT (75 minutes total w/60 at subLT). Pretty good workout and have to say I felt pretty strong even if it was on this strange device. Not quite sure what muscles I'm hitting or whether they will maintain any running fitness, but certainly good cardio nonetheless. Also don't think it's hurting the foot to do these.

Sub 3h15

Posted: 25/01/2015 at 21:49

Lorenzo, sorry to hear about the leg. Like you, I'm still stuck on the bench. Well, not completely restricted to the bench as I have been using my wife's elliptical. Can get a pretty good workout in on this thing. Not sure how well it translates to running, but HR zones are hit nicely. Today did a subLT session. Got about 5 hrs over 3 session in this week. Extensor tendonitis much improved over the course of the week, but still have a little soreness lingering if I lift that big toe a few times. Am thinking I have another few days before I can venture out for a 3 mile test run.

MsE, really great news.

As for the rest of you, I'm jealous I can't post big miles and swanky paces!! Great training everyone. It's great to share in the trials of miles and miles of trials.

At present, I'm thinking I may just shoot for a fall marathon. Target time would be sub 3:05ish (or if all the stars were to align on the day sub 3). My short term goal would be another Boston qualifier time this year (sub3:15 as I'm 41). Long term goal will be sub 3 sometime in the next 3-4 years. I think I'm capable, but it will be a close thing if I do it as current PB is just a hair under 3:10.

Marrows, good to hear from you. Seems things are well and your target is the same as mine. I think we can lose another 5 minutes this year!

HADD Training Method

Posted: 23/01/2015 at 19:43

Sorry to hear the bug is passing through you guys.

Nice rebooting DD!

After such a long stretch without a major injury, I'm on the bench I've got a pretty good case of extensor tendonitis on the tendon running off my big toe on the left foot. Fizz originally popped a bone back in place and thought we had it liked, but not to be. Last run was Sunday and I should have skipped it but anyway, no runs for a while now. Thinking best case maybe out 2 weeks but I suspect it may be longer. Tried Elliptical last night but it aggravated it a bit. Stinks, but at least I'm not 5 wks out from a marathon. Will just have deal and heal.

I think my week of higher cadence running did it. Should have considered that 50 miles of higher than normal cadence could be risky. Another lesson.


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Posted: 19/01/2015 at 16:22

MsE, very sorry to hear about the injury! You've overcome so much...I too was hoping you could just settle in and train this year. But as the others say, perhaps you'll be benched for a shorter period than you fear.

As to my foot problem, I think I counted my chickens before they hatched. While my 10 mile test run last week went OK, later than night my foot started to hurt more. Took the next day off and could feel it a bit. 2nd day after pain was gone again so went out to test the waters once more. Ran 8 miles w/6 at subLT. Could feel it in mile 3. Then pain increased for 2 miles and then disappeared. Miles were nice and fast BTW (~6:48 m/m) and I was strong. Which makes the next part so hard...my foot was very sore within minutes after stopping. So clearly my extensor tendons are inflamed and not happy. Will get in for some more physical therapy this week and just shut the running down per new instructions (we'll see what those will be). I don't have any real A races coming up so will try to do some xtraining (thinking elliptical) and core work. Have so much going on at work now (big deadline is March 5th) that this might just need to happen. Can balance work better, strengthen core and try to maintain a bit of cardio, let my body really recover after 3 full (and consecutive) cycles of marathon training, and come back ready for another long stretch. At this point I have to be realistic and protect what I've got. I don't think missing several weeks will cost me too much in the big picture. It may actually work in my favor.

...but damn I hate not being able to run, especially as fit as I am right now!!

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Posted: 16/01/2015 at 23:20

One of the most important ingredients to my running the past 2 years is my physical therapy team. There are 3 ladies at this place that I rotate between. They never fail to amaze me. I limp in last night thinking I'd be out for a while. She tells me no way, think it is just a bone that's slipped out of place. Here, let me try...pop...pain gone! I say I should probably rest for a few days, right? She says, nope, I want you to test it tomorrow. Try an 8 miler (yes, may I please have another?!). So went out in the cold and got 10 miles in feeling pretty good (just felt it a bit). Got a little sore directly after the run (nothing like Wed PM), but I was able to "pop" it back again and now 4 hours later just a faint hint of discomfort. Amazing!

HADD Training Method

Posted: 15/01/2015 at 03:25

1st metatarsal nearly painless before subLT session but not happy after. Damn it.

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Posted: 15/01/2015 at 03:23

Got a nice subLT session in today (12 w/10 fast). Felt in the zone and comfy. But I have finally managed to get dinged up after a very long stretch of no scary injuries. Extensor sheath area on 1st metatarsal of right foot not happy. Acted up out the blue at the end of my run Monday...was better Tuesday (rest day) and was nearly painless today. Felt it a bit during the run early but not later...after run it was not good. Iced/ibuprofen already helps but might need to visit my fizz team soon (dooh!). Hopefully they'll steer me back to the road as per the usual, but am a little nervous this time. I have been getting about 3-5 hrs of sleep since after the new year so that coupled with lots stress at work (hence no sleep) and lots of miles could easily explain. Plus higher cadence stuff lately. Grrrr....

HADD Training Method

Posted: 14/01/2015 at 14:37

Chick! Nice to hear from you and glad that you were cleared to get out there again. Also happy result not to need any procedures. I hear you on the 60 mph appetite whether running the miles  or not. Same thing always happens to me. I've got a few holiday pounds for sure.

Ha ha Dr. Dan No frostbite, but did have the symptoms of frost nip last week on my hands. All better now though. And toe pain is gone today so will see on the next run. What's with the hair cut??!! I bet you've gotten lots of comments. I had hair down to the middle of my back about 10 years ago. Now I get a #1 clipper cut and love it! Makes life so simple!

Last year we started a bit of a weight track thing. Wondering if we need to restart? It did get me on the scale once a week (which I've avoided lately).


Sub 3h15

Posted: 14/01/2015 at 14:28

Leslie, feeling your pain as we've got patches of ice/snow here at the moment and trying to figure out if I can pull off a subLT effort safely. Cold can be braved but sometimes traction (or the ability to see what's under that snow waiting to twist your ankle) cannot.

Wool and GE, it seems like a lot when you read it, but in reality it's not that bad. If you can commit a couple of months to running everything at around 70% maxHR, you fall into line nicely. Once you can run about 10-12 miles at 70% with steady HR and pace, you can begin adding the ILTHR (subLT) sessions. Once you get those going you can essentially follow the routine (2 subLT runs per week; 1 LR, the rest easy runs) and what you end up with is a rather realistic and effective marathon training program for FT types. The initial investment may pay such dividends that it could be silly not to try. But this only applies to those that either don't have their endurance dialed in or alternatively folks that have endurance but want to raise their LT (which would give faster times anything from probably 10K to marathon). I still haven't gotten my LT up to my 85-87% maxHR (right now best has been to about 80-82ish). So once I eventually get there I can switch to other types of training w/more speed. But in the meantime, have managed decent times at the 80% level. Or maybe this just what a former sprinter has to do to get around in one piece!

BTW GE, I've never actually done the 2400 test. Have instead let the stats and feel of the subLTs guide me. Agreed, it looks like a killer workout. Lit, where I live it would be a nonstarter every day

Sub 3h15

Posted: 14/01/2015 at 01:47

Tough luck Lorenzo. Hope it is all sorted now. Not sure I like oozy mud in my path...

KR, nice testosterone! Hadn't thought about that half conversion. I've never raced a half, but wondering what you think a 3:10 would translate to (maybe 1:28ish?). I just signed up for one in April. We'll see what's what then I guess.

Wool, here is a link to that thread http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/training/hadd-training-method/260438.html

This http://www.angio.net/personal/run/hadd.pdf is the doc I first read (and was nodding my head as the author wrote about mistakes made in training that can impair developing your aerobic engine). Following the plan apparently can turn you into an aerobic monster, but so far have only seen glimpses of my monster teeth. Hoping to get them in more fully over then next couple of years.

Think I'll start proofing what I write too

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