RW's Garmin Schedules: FAQs


Posted: 26 November 2006

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Choosing and customising a schedule

Downloading the schedule from RW onto your Forerunner

Using Training Center

Following the sessions

More help... If you don't find the answer to your question in the above FAQs, then please email Garmin's helpline, inputting 'Runner's World training plans' in the subject field of your email to aid our product support teams.


Choosing and customising a schedule

Which schedule should I follow? - If you've raced at any distance before, see what our race-time predictor says. Try inputting your race times for different distances if you've done more than one, as the result may vary. If you haven't raced before, see which schedules match your current weekly mileages. One of the advantages of downloading a heart rate based schedule is that your SDM will guide you based on your ability.

If I customise the training paces or heart rates in the schedule, will they still get me to my marathon goal? - There are no guarantees in marathon training, but the default schedules will get most people to the default goals, allowing for a missed week or two and a little flexibility in training paces. If you have natural endurance it may not matter that you run speedwork 30 seconds a mile slower than prescribed, but you should try as hard as you can. Alternatively some injury-prone runners may be able to get above-average results by following a low-mileage schedule at a higher pace than prescribed. If in doubt, start with a schedule in which the default pace targets match your own ability as closely as possible, even if it means tempering your marathon goal for now. Or use heart rate targets, which will automatically provide the right pace for you. You can always change your goal partway through (see below).

I don't know whether the default paces on the schedules are right for me. Should I just trust them? If a schedule's mileage is right for you, start off at its default paces unless you know better. Runners have hit marathon targets on these paces for decades. But everyone has different biases towards speed or endurance, and you can recalculate your target paces (or just the slower ones or faster ones) based on race and training results every four weeks or so.

Won't this work on my Forerunner 201? No, we're afraid that the 201 doesn't support training schedules.


Downloading the schedule from RW onto your Forerunner

You suggested I download a software update to improve pace smoothing on my Forerunner 205 and 305, but I get a 'command line' message when I try to open the update.exe file. Sorry that this is not clear: You need to drag the '.rgn' file onto the 'updater.exe' file, and the update happens automatically.

Find the relevant software update for your device:
Forerunner 405
Forerunner 410
Forerunner 610
Forerunner 310XT
Forerunner 910XT

Can you talk me through the whole download process?
Certainly:

  1. Download a schedule - this will place a file called 'rwschedule.wkt' onto your PC
  2. Open the Garmin Training Center software on your PC. (This is available on Garmin's website, and on the CD that came with your Forerunner.)
  3. If you have already typed workouts into your Training Center calendar for January-April 2007, you may want to delete them, otherwise the RW schedules will sit alongside them.
  4. In the top menu bar in Training Center, choose File > Import workouts, and select the 'rw schedule.wkt' that you downloaded. This will bring the RW schedule into your Training Center calendar (starting Jan 1)
  5. Next time you connect your Forerunner to the PC, a message will ask whether you want to transfer the workouts onto your Forerunner - select 'yes'.

You'll then be able to see a brief description of each workout on your Forerunner, and the Forerunner will guide you through each session. You'll need to look at the Traning Center calendar (or the printed version of the schedule) to see additional notes eg 'do this session off-road' or 'take drinks along the way' as there isn't space to show these on the Forerunner.

When I try to import the RW schedules into Training Center, I get an error message reporting that rwschedule.wkt is not a valid workout file. Please check the version of Training Center you're using (go to 'Help > About' in the top menu) - it should be 3.1 or later. If not, visit Garmin's update page, scroll down to your Forerunner model and download the latest Training Center update. Please let us know if you still have trouble.

I've imported the RW schedule, but I can't see any workouts in my calendar. Have you scrolled down to January 1? If they're still not there, please let us know. If they're there and you want to try some early, copy workouts into an early date.

Does changing my HR on the download page change it in Training Center? No, it's just on the download page for illustrative purposes. The percentages of MHR that you see and can revise on the download page will be carried through to Training Center though. To change your MHR, click 'profile' in Training Center.

I'm using a wireless Forerunner (405, 405CX, 410, 610, 310XT, 910XT). How do I pair with my computer? If you are using one of our wireless data transfer devices (Forerunner 405 / 410 / 610 / 310XT or 910XT), please ensure you have downloaded the ANT Agent on to your computer and that you have already paired your device with your computer. You would have done this when you first set up your device with your computer, but if you are unsure, please check the following link).

I'm using a Forerunner 405. How do I upload the schedule to my wrist unit? Open Training Center software on your PC, and ensure that the ANT stick is plugged-in to your computer. (If you are having difficulty pairing your 405 with your computer, click here). Import the schedule into Training Center as per the Runner's World instructions. Then, within Training Center, select "File > send to device", ensuring that your 405 is within range. The training schedule should then start to transfer. To view status, right click on the ANT icon and click Open Garmin ANT Agent.


Using Training Center

I want to shuffle some dates around - can I do that? Yes, just drag them from one date to another in Training Center.

I want to alter some sessions - can I do that? Yes, you have two options. If you want to change all occurences of a session (eg you want to reduce the jog recovery from 3 mins to 2 mins every time you do a 12 x 200m hill session) then edit it in Training Center by clicking the session in the workout list on the left of your calendar. If you just want to change one occurence - eg your normal Monday 5 miles easy needs to be 6.5 miles brisk to accommodate a friend, then don't edit the session in the workout list or it will change all occurences of 5 miles easy. Instead, delete the workout from the day you want to change, create a new workout and pull it into the right day on the calendar.

I've been injured – can I recalculate a schedule to allow for this? No (not at the moment). Most schedules will accommodate a week or two out for illness or injury, and if you are fully recovered you just need to ease back into them over the course of a further fortnight. If you suffer a serious setback for some weeks, but are genuinely able to continue with training, your best course of action may be to import an easier schedule, in which a more modest mileage allows you to get back on track with minimal health risk.

I've started following my schedule but I'm faster/slower than I thought. Is it too late to change my pace targets or heart rate targets? No, just delete the schedule from Training Center (your workout history will remain intact), then come back to this page, adjust your targets and upload the new schedule into Training Center. Alternatively, if you are following a schedule with heart-rate targets and the problem is caused by an inaccurate maximum heart rate, just correct your maximum heart rate in the personal-profile section of Training Center.

Can't I just change the training heart-rate targets and training pace-targets in Training Center? It's easiest to re-upload the entire schedule as described above. The targets are custom-made for each session and do not relate to the training zones that are built into your Forerunner.


Following the sessions

There isn't much detail in the schedule I downloaded, compared with the version on the download page. There is - it's in your Training Center calendar in the 'notes' section that accompanies each workout. There's just not room on your Forerunner to display it. For more explanations and pep talks by email, sign up to our weekly spring marathon email.

The workout names are short - and some seem truncated (eg Fartlek 6M, wu/). Am I missing something? Workout names are limited to 15 characters, so some may look a bit cryptic on your Forerunner. The full workout descriptions, with notes, are on your Training Center calendar (and the printable version of the schedules). ('Wu/cd' means 'with warmup and cooldown', incidentally, and your Forerunner will guide you through both elements.)

The pace alert beeps all the time on my Forerunner 301 If your targets seem wrong, we suggest you change your heart rate or pace settings on this page and download a new version of the schedule. (Delete the old one from Training Center before you import the new one.) Your pace alert may beep too much in some speed sessions, particularly as your heart rate takes time to rise at the start and then drifts naturally upwards at then end, and we suggest you ignore it or switch it off if this happens (see below for more about speedwork)

I can't follow the distances in the schedule exactly, even though my Forerunner tells me to We realise that in real life your warmup to the park may be 1.8 miles not 1.5 miles, your long run route may be 12.8 miles not 13 miles, or your speedwork loop may measure 830m not 800m. If it's shorter than the Garmin prescribes, just press 'lap' to move to the next segment in your workout, or 'stop' to end the session. If the Garmin gets to the end of a segment before you do (eg it says you've reached the end of an 800m repetition and moves straight into the 'recovery jog') you need to pause the Garmin when it beeps, then restart it when you get to the end of your lap. If this proves impractical you may choose to switch off the alert and ignore the monitor altogether.

How can I see my mile splits? Do I need to redefine each of the workouts? You can actually set the Forerunner to automatically record data for each mile already.
To clarify:

  • as it stands, the Forerunner will record data for each lap individually.
    This will work really well, particularly for interval based sessions, as each interval/step counts as a lap.

  • if you want to, you can set the Forerunner to auto lap at every mile instead. To do this from the main menu screen in the Forerunner, proceed as follows:
    Training > Training Options > Auto Lap > By distance
    Garmin suggests that this is something the user selects depending on the session e.g. this would work better for steady / slow / easy sessions rather than intervals.

Why don't some speedwork sessions have heart rate targets? I downloaded the heart-rate-based schedule. Repetitions below 1000m don't have heart rate targets because your heart rate naturally changes so much. It takes time to rise high enough at the start and then drifts naturally upwards at the end. In a short repetition this may mean you have barely two minutes in the middle when your body is able to hit a target heart rate. Our feeling is that trying to stick to a heart rate would stifle speed sessions like these. Your aim instead should be to judge your effort. You should finish each rep strongly, but without energy to spare, and finish the last rep as strongly as the first.

The schedule specifies 2-minute climbs for hill sessions. My hill is longer/shorter. We chose a time target rather than pace or heart rate because hills vary so much. If your hill is longer than two minutes, we suggest you try to get further up the hill each session in your two minute window. If your hill is shorter, you'll just need to press 'lap' on your Forerunner to move onto the next step.

How do I vary the Pace smoothing option? To set the pace smoothing on the Forerunner, first select settings from the menu, then select running followed by Speed Units. If you have the Units set to Pace, then the smoothing options will be shown underneath and can be varied depending on user preferences. Selecting 'most' is the recommended option for following the Runner's World schedules.



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Hi

I have just downloaded the 16-week marathon guide for my Garmin Forerunner 305 but have been unable to import it into my Training Centre programme for syncing with my forerunner unit.

I use a mac running osx and the latest Training Centre application is up to date at vers 2.0.3 (although windows versions are up to 3.3)...

Is the wkt file that i downloaded only windows compatible..... any help would be appreciated

thanks in advance

marty 


Posted: 09/12/2007 at 13:07

I cant seem to do much with the file either and I'm on Mac OS X as well.

Any help would be appreciated.


Posted: 10/12/2007 at 14:16

I am not sure really what happened here. In January/February, there was no problem at all importing .wkt file to the training center. But, now now wkt is somehow not compatible on a mac.
Posted: 11/12/2007 at 16:09

Hi, I'm also having the same problem on a PC, using training center version 3.3.2 which is the latest version.
Posted: 11/12/2007 at 22:18

I've been able to download the schedule but it's all a month earlier, so apparatnly I'm doing the FLM on March 13th! On my own..

Any ideas on what's wrong?


Posted: 11/12/2007 at 22:24

i have recieved a comment from gamin europe who commented..


"At present the Runners World workout plans are only available in the  .wkt file type, which will only work on the Windows based version of the Garmin Training Center."

But I am sure I had uploaded a previous workout schedule (WKT type file) through previous versions of Training Centre software..... i will hold off for some more advice.... if i hear anything else from Garmin I will post it on the message board....

Later

Marty 


Posted: 11/12/2007 at 22:26

Mine's fine now, just reinstalled the training center and everything works ok
Posted: 11/12/2007 at 22:27

Hi guys,

Thanks for letting us know about the issues you've been having. There appears to be two themes, both on here and in another thread. Firstly, the downloadable Garmin schedules were never available for Mac users. To get around this we're going to try and build a function that allows the user to down their schedule straight for this site and into their Garmin, thus making Training Center irrelevant.

The second theme is based around the date version downloading a month before the FLM ie the 13th of March. That's really odd and it's not something we or the good chaps at Garmin found during  testing. Therefore if you're having this problem I'd be grateful for as much information as possible. The following would be ideal:

  • What schedule are you downloading?
  • Is the schedule for the FLM based plans or the set that allow you to choose your race date?
  • What version of Training Center are you using?
  • Finally, can you email me the wkt file that's causing a problem?

Thanks for all your patience and your feedback. As ever it's much appreciated.

Daniel RW

 daniel.benson@natmag-rodale.co.uk


Posted: 11/12/2007 at 22:48

Hi Dan,
I also use a mac and can't use your schedules, so I was wondering if the following would work:
(1) Download training centre on a pc
(2) Download the RW schedule to the pc
(3) Sync my 305 with the pc
(4) Sync my 305 with my mac
Would this work or would it bugger everything up?
Posted: 12/12/2007 at 19:07

Hi Daniel RW

 Me too: date version downloading a month before the FLM ie the 13th of March

  • What schedule are you downloading? - both FLM Garmin-ready sub4 and sub 4.30
  • Is the schedule for the FLM based plans or the set that allow you to choose your race date? FLM-based
  • What version of Training Center are you using? 3.2.0
  • Finally, can you email me the wkt file that's causing a problem? - will do

Look forward to a quick fix!

Andy


Posted: 13/12/2007 at 18:20

HI Daniel

I downloaded sub 3.30. I am using the most up to date version of training center. I have now had to move all runs by hand.

Russell


Posted: 13/12/2007 at 19:43

Russell, 

Can you please send the file you downloaded to my email address?

daniel.benson@natmag-rodale.co.uk

Thanks and sorry you had to tranfer everything by hand.


Posted: 13/12/2007 at 19:45

Daniel- no probs. Have sent you file. Hope it helps.

Thanks for the speedy response

Russell


Posted: 13/12/2007 at 20:27

Hey Russell,

Cheers for sending the file over so quickly. We'll  have someone take a look at tomorrow. 

Dan RW


Posted: 13/12/2007 at 22:30

Hi,

I downloaded the sub 3.45 for FLM and also getting it with the marathon on 13th March.  I'm also using version 3.2.0 of the training center.

Ang


Posted: 15/12/2007 at 18:15

I am also getting the marathon to be on the 13th March - I thought I had got around it by re-downloading it with FLM @ 13/5/08 but around week 6 onwards, the long run ends up on a Monday so it will need some manual reshuffling.

 I am using version 3.2.0 of the training centre.


Posted: 26/12/2007 at 11:04

Hi,

 I've also had the problem of my schedule sub 4.00 and the marathon date is coming up the month before. I've emailed Garmin about it. I've a 305 forerunner.  I am using vista os and though there might be some kinks with vista as there is with everything else!

Please could you let us know how your testing has got on. I'm in the ecommerce world, so know what you're going through!

 Thanks

Eleanor
 


Posted: 27/12/2007 at 20:51

Aw - so i have spent ages putting stuff on my mac for no good reason 
 


Posted: 27/12/2007 at 23:08

righto have got the schedule on the GPS!

can I ask if the schedule says to run 4M and I happen to run 5M does it stop recording my pace and distance after 4M?

Cheers


Posted: 27/12/2007 at 23:40

Ive just bought the forerunner based on the reviews in RW, and am also on a MAC.  Unfortunately no mention of these issues on the review!!!!

Im assuming theres no fix to this problem - so being PC'less whats my best course of ction to get the schedules, or am I sending the 305 back???

Thanks, 


Posted: 29/12/2007 at 14:26

What was the fix to put the correct dates into my Garmin? Don't want to do the FLM in March!!  I am using ver 3.2 on Windows xp.  Just bought my Garmin today and can't wait to get out and use it.

Tom


Posted: 29/12/2007 at 15:29

Hi,

 There also seems to be a similar discussion regarding the dates on forum:  Flora London Marathon > Garmin FR305 schedules.

There's a suggestion of how to fix the problem on here but haven't tried it myself yet!


Posted: 31/12/2007 at 11:51

I think the forerunner 305 is going to go down as the most useless christmas present ever! Begged my husband to buy it for me as an aid to training for FLM but we only have Macs, and so I'm not able to download the schedules. Tried doing it manually, but am getting bleeped at every couple of minutes telling me to speed up or slow down, and can't manage to reset the thing...anyone out there actually got to grips with it or is it the over-hyped gimmick I'm beginning to think it is? (and is it normal for it to take anything up to 10 minutes to locate a satellite?) Any help gratefully received!
Posted: 08/01/2008 at 20:14

Katherine,

I got one aswell just after xmas for the same reason - its my first marathon in April.   Im also mac only.

I managed to upload the schedule to my garmin using a friends XP pc, and am saving all the training on the watch, waiting a fix for the Mac.  

 Re the satellite issue, ive found that if i set off before its located a satellite i can wait for 10 mins.  Ive also noticed that after waiting 2-3 mins (during whih time im outside and stretching/warming up) if i switch the garmin off and back on the satellite comes up straight away and i can start running.  

Hope this helps. 


Posted: 08/01/2008 at 22:04

Hi, the solution for me was to plug in the forerunner on a work pc, download the program for the FLM, then I took it home and plugged into my mac to which it automatically updated everything without me having to do anything at all. So after the one off use of the pc I now have everthing as I wanted it on my mac adn all my workout history logged etc.

As far as the satellite loading goes I read a review which advised turning on your unit and leaving on a window sill for a few minutes while you get your gear on, as long as you leave the house within a few minutes it holds the signal and you can start right away, perfect for cold mornings.


Posted: 17/01/2008 at 10:39

Mine never take more than 2 minutes Katherine, and the once or twice its done it in 2 years I've switched off then back on as Phil says and its been there immediately.

Have just given up on the schedule - at the end of the day I know what pace I need to do and how far and the watch tells me that!
Posted: 17/01/2008 at 10:55

Thanks for the advice - will try switching it off and then on again when I go out today

I think I'm going to give up the unequal struggle with loading the schedule - even if I get it loaded, I will still have the problem that it'll think I'm slacking and tell me to speed up when actually I'm toiling my way up one of Dartmoor's many many hills!
Posted: 17/01/2008 at 11:26

Are you supposed to be able to get the .wkt file onto the 305 using the latest Training Centre software (version 3.3.2)? .wkt Doesn't seem to be a recognised file extension and typing the file name in by hand results in Training centre giving an error????


Posted: 02/02/2008 at 15:24

Anyone know of any fix for the Mac yet??
Posted: 19/03/2008 at 22:02

Moscowflyer, did you have a read of my post above - if you have a friend with a pc ( or one at work perhaps like i did) you can install the training centre software on there, download the program wkt file you want onto it and import to workouts, then  plug in your garmin and pull the schedule onto it. once it is on you can delete everything off the pc no harm done. After that install the mac software onto yr mac, when that is done plug your garmin in and upload the program into your workouts. I did it this way and now everytime I plug my forerunner in it updates my history stats etc on the mac just like it is supposed to. Other than this depending on what software and OS you have on mac you can use boot camp or similar and choose to open a windows OS instead of Tiger or Leopard and load it on that way perhaps?
Posted: 20/03/2008 at 12:46

Theres a runnersworld user who figured out the differences between the file formats.  He has a perl script for translating them towards the end of the thread: Garmin marathon schedules and macs

You have to be pretty techy to follow the instructions, if anyone needs additional help I can email you a translated version if you message me.


Posted: 01/05/2008 at 11:21

Jim, I can't seem to be able to message you?

I can create the script, but that's all, no idea where to save it or what to do next.  When saving as it tells me to I get the following message.

You cannot save this document with extension “.pl” at the end of the name. The required extension is “.scpt”.

If you can help it would be much appreciated!


Posted: 01/05/2008 at 11:52

Anyone know whether or not these downloadable schedules will work with the 405?? 
Posted: 05/07/2008 at 09:14

I have been reading about the MAC problems being a MAC user. I have an intel Mac and because I have to use Mini Tab I have VM fusion so that I can run Windows as a virtual machine. Therefore you can run the windows version of Training centre to load the file.

This may be a more costly option but may be worth it if you have other program's that you need to run in Windows
Posted: 04/08/2008 at 18:21

I've tried to import my .wkt file to the GTC version 3.4.3....file:/import:/All. This file is not recognised even on my windows PC. The GTC is looking for a .tcx file. Any ideas???


Posted: 03/01/2009 at 11:42

Snap.

 Any ideas

HHH


Posted: 03/01/2009 at 12:46

Why do you need to upload the schedule to your watch? Sounds more trouble than it's worth. Just see what pace/distance  you're supposed to be running, and then go out and run.

For any new Garmin users, try SportsTracks for importing and analysing your data. It's free and very good. Much better than the Garmin one. http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/

 Re the satellite, this can depend on where you live. I occasionally have trouble finding a satellite in  a heavily built-up area. My routine is this: I get changed, then turn on the Garmin and put it outside the back door while I look for my shoes and put them on. By the time I've done that, the watch will have found a satellite. Don't give up on it, it is an excellent gadget. I tend to use only the basic functions but still get a lot of value from it. I've been using GPS for running for about 5 or 6 years and regard them as an essential part of my kit now.


Posted: 03/01/2009 at 13:23

RC,

Saves re-setting paces everyday ettc.

 Managed to get schedule in to TC a year or so but things must have changed.

HHH


Posted: 03/01/2009 at 16:06

Any news on a fix for the mac problem? Training for 09 starts tomorrow (hurrah)
Posted: 04/01/2009 at 12:16

Hi all

Just imported the Schedule for the 305 for the marathon and it wants me to run the it all by myself on march the 26th. Seemed to be a similar problem last year is there a fix for it or will all Garmin users be dodging traffic!

G


Posted: 13/01/2009 at 15:50

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